I concur with Kinnie
what is your resting HR first thing in the am before you rise from bed ?
if it is elevated you need a recovery week


Quoting Kinnie Pruden <[email protected]>:

> Why stop with the suggestions now?  This is too much fun!  My turn, diagnosis
> guess:  over training, exacerbated by heat exhaustion.  Reasoning:  you are
> relatively new to cycling if I remember correctly.  Since BSG you guys have
> been going at it pretty hard with early morning and evening weekday rides,
> plus the longer weekend rides.  You probably have not had a "rest" week. 
> Rule:  all endurance athletes need a "down" week so that the muscle tissues
> we "tear down" in training have an opportunity to repair and thusly become
> stronger.  During training for tri's one typically builds on their volume for
> 3 to 4 weeks then follows with a "down" week of 50% less volume. 
> Prescription:  figure your volume over the last few weeks (ex. from Sunday to
> Saturday, 100 mls one week, 120 the next, 140 the next), then take one whole
> week and decrease you mileage by 50% (roughly) (ex. 60-70 miles).  You can
> then pick back up where you left off if you wish,
>  hopefully refreshed and ready to go.
>  
> With that said, it's also really hot!  :)  kp
> 
> --- On Thu, 7/22/10, Goocey M.K. Joshua <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> 
> From: Goocey M.K. Joshua <[email protected]>
> Subject: [COWs] Diagnosis Discovered
> To: [email protected]
> Date: Thursday, July 22, 2010, 9:29 AM
> 
> 
> Thanks for all the good suggestions!! 
> 
> 
> Although Vino's advice for a week of heavy drinking and smoking sounded
> appealing, I decided to take a more Christian path.  I got up early this
> morning and went for a light 45 minute ride.  My heart rate stayed within
> normal ranges, and, while my power output seemed slightly diminished,
> probably from the last two days of riding, I felt good overall.
> 
> 
> Conclusion, I'm not a wuss and I have no problems with dehydration.  My body
> was simply overheating.  I recommend early morning rides with Caudle!!
> 
> 
> Lessons well learned
> 
> 
> Goose
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> Rev. Joshua M.K. Goocey
> Senior Minister
> First Christian Church (Disciples of Christ)
> 207 Tarboro St. N.
> Wilson, NC 27896
> [email protected]
> 
> 
> "Excellence is an art won by training and habituation. We do not act rightly
> because we have virtue or excellence, but we rather have those because we
> have acted rightly. 
> We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act but a habit."
>  Will Durant, The Story of Philosophy
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> "The Bible is very easy to understand. But we Christians are a bunch of
> scheming swindlers. We pretend to be unable to understand it because we know
> very well that the minute we understand, we are obliged to act accordingly.”
>  --Søren Kierkegaard
> 
> 
> On Jul 22, 2010, at 8:47 AM, Gibson, Brian wrote:
> 
> 
> Not taking a bike? I thought that was how you were getting to Maine.
> 
> Brian Gibson 
> BB&T BankCard Services Analytics and Reporting
> Financial Reporting Analyst
> 2713A Forest Hills Road, Wilson, NC 27893 
> Ph: 252-296-7139 | Fax: 252-296-7095
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Glover, Jeff
> Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 8:46 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: [COWs] Re: Heat, Dehydration, and Diagnosis
> 
> And you are not taking a bike? Ok, you'll rent one.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Lucas
> Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 8:43 AM
> To: CyclistsOfWilson-COWs
> Subject: [COWs] Re: Heat, Dehydration, and Diagnosis
> 
> Or you guys can come with us Saturday to Bar Harbor, Maine.
> Highs Sat. through Tuesday, 78 degrees!!!
> Yooo-Hooo!!!
> 
> 
> 
> On Jul 22, 8:27 am, "Glover, Jeff" <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Excellent suggestions. It is just hot.
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> 
> 
> 
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jim Davis
> 
> Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 8:06 AM
> 
> To: [email protected]
> 
> Subject: Re[2]: [COWs] Heat, Dehydration, and Diagnosis
> 
> 
> 
> both of you are suffering somewhat from heat exhaustion, Joshua the hot and
> cold chills can be serious.  Hydration occurrs the night before the ride you
> should be drinking  tons of water during the day and each night.  Shouldn't
> pass a bahtroom without having to go in.  Urine should be clear unless you
> are on meds or excessive vitamins.  Drink lots on the ride, I am drinking a
> bottle and half to two bottles per 20 miles.  Avoid riding between 3:00 and
> 5:00.
> 
> 
> 
> finally be patient and pray for cooler weather and less humidity.
> 
> 
> 
> Jim
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> 
> ________________________________
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> 
>         -----Original Message-----
> 
>         From: CenturyLink Customer <[email protected]>
> 
>         To: [email protected]
> 
>         Date: 07/21/10 18:10
> 
>         Subject: Re: [COWs] Heat, Dehydration, and Diagnosis
> 
> 
> 
>         Goose,
> 
>         I too have been experiencing difficulty on afternoon rides.  My
> symptoms are: difficulty catching my breath (the air seems to be lacking
> enough oxygen), feel very hot (hotter than normal) after pushing up hills or
> riding faster than normal, legs seem to be weaker than normal.  When I slow
> down, I feel fine.  I haven't experienced a feeling of nausea.  I've never
> had heat stroke, but I wonder if these symptoms suggest being close to having
> one.
> 
>         ----- Original Message -----
> 
>         From: Goocey M.K. Joshua
> 
>         To: [email protected]
> 
>         Sent: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 17:07:02 -0400 (EDT)
> 
>         Subject: [COWs] Heat, Dehydration, and Diagnosis
> 
> 
> 
>         I may need the Doc's expertise on this.  I have not had a good ride
> since my July 13 time trial.  That totals almost a whole week of miserable
> rides, starting with the whole Jim, Tim, and Potato Hill fiasco.  I wonder if
> I have been chronically dehydrated.
> 
> 
> 
>         The constants:
> 
> 
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>         1) Food: not changed much
> 
> 
> 
>         2) Routes: I haven't flown over to the Alps for any tour legs
> 
> 
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>         3: Bike: I haven't found anything heavier . . . not that they make
> that.
> 
> 
> 
>         Changes:
> 
> 
> 
>         1) I have switched from Cytomax to plain old Gatorade
> 
> 
> 
>         2) Because of morning and evening commitments, I have been riding
> between 1-5 in the afternoons, which means hotter temperatures
> 
> 
> 
>         Symptoms:
> 
> 
> 
>         1) Inability to keep my HR down below anaerobic threshold.  Today I
> averaged 177 bmp for 1.5 hours, and overpasses sent my heart rate up to 192.
>  Only Snake Mountain has taken my HR that high
> 
> 
> 
>         2) Cold chills on the bike.  It feels like I am passing through
> pockets of hot and cold air
> 
> 
> 
>         3) A strong desire to puke while taking down fluids . . . I'm
> probably drinking about twice as much as I usually do
> 
> 
> 
>         4) No gas . . . I try to put the hammer down, and nothing comes out.
>  I averaged 16.7 mph today and 16.2 yesterday.  Even the heavy wind shouldn't
> account for that poor of an average.  Regardless, every minute feels like
> hell.
> 
> 
> 
>         Did I sleep from January to June and only IMAGINE that I rode BSG?
> 
> 
> 
>         Any ideas?  If dehydration, then any solutions--other than ride with
> David at 5:45?
> 
> 
> 
>         Goose
> 
> 
> 
>         Rev. Joshua M.K. Goocey
> 
> 
> 
>         Senior Minister
> 
> 
> 
>         First Christian Church (Disciples of Christ)
> 
> 
> 
>         207 Tarboro St. N.
> 
> 
> 
>         Wilson, NC 27896
> 
> 
> 
>         [email protected] <http://mailto:[email protected]>
> 
> 
> 
>         "Excellence is an art won by training and habituation. We do not act
> rightly because we have virtue or excellence, but we rather have those
> because we have acted rightly.
> 
> 
> 
>         We are what we repeatedly do.  Excellence, then, is not an act but a
> habit."   Will Durant, The Story of Philosophy
> 
> 
> 
>         "The Bible is very easy to understand. But we Christians are a bunch
> of scheming swindlers. We pretend to be unable to understand it because we
> know very well that the minute we understand, we are obliged to act
> accordingly."  --Søren Kierkegaard
> 
> 
> 
>         On Jul 21, 2010, at 2:55 PM, David C. wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>                 Anyone interested in doing this ride?
> 
> 
> 
>              
>  http://www.setupevents.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=event_detail&eventID=...
> 
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