> From: Tyler Durden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 12:12:34 -0500
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: The End of the Golden Age of Crypto
> 
> "All religions are complete systems.  Some people consider them useful,
> but I'm not sure it classifies as "the real world".
> :-)"
> 
> I've wondered about that...I suspect that if God exists, then He is true but
> unprovable in any useful system!
> 
> -TD
> 
That's the whole deal with the bible, and its various internal
contradictions. If anything can be proven true in the bible, then there's no
room for faith anymore, which nullifies religious "beliefs"; and if anything
can be proven false, then there's no god, and religion is crushed under the
heel of reason. Hurrah, Enlightenment!
~~SAM

> PS: According to Godel's biographer, Godel at one point passed around a
> proof of the existence of God! (But towards the end of his life he also
> started wearing a surgical mask everywhere and became intensely
> germaphobic...)
> 
> 
> 
>> From: Mike Rosing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Subject: Re: The End of the Golden Age of Crypto
>> Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 08:26:02 -0800 (PST)
>> 
>> On Wed, 13 Nov 2002, Tyler Durden wrote:
>> 
>>> Damn what a pack of geeks! (Looks like I might end up liking this list!)
>> 
>> It's full of nut cases too :-)
>> 
>>> I have not, however, heretofore considered that there could exist
>> systems
>>> that had some form of completeness built in. My intuition (which is
>> easily
>>> wrong) tells me that no such system could ever be useful in the real
>> world,
>>> but who the heck knows?
>> 
>> All religions are complete systems.  Some people consider them useful,
>> but I'm not sure it classifies as "the real world".
>> :-)
>> 
>> Patience, persistence, truth,
>> Dr. mike
> 
> 
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