On Tuesday 19 November 2002 10:59 am, Tyler Durden wrote:
> >Granted. I wish we could go back to isolationism, but as the worlds
> > >only remaining Super Power, that seems unlikely. No matter what we
> > >do, we simply can't win. When faced with a game I can't win, I
> > either >decide to not play, or I cheat. For the US, the first isn't
> > an option.
> Waitaminute...I think I understand your point, but NOT meddling in the
> affairs of the middle east is by no means "isolationism".
And the middle east is the only place we meddle? I think not. But the
middle east is the only place who has overtly attacked us. Isolationism
would eliminate all such meddling, but it would also prevent us from
protecting our interestes abroad. Like it or not, we have interests. Damned
if we do, and damned if we don't.
> Well, I agree that no human is absolved of personal responsibility for
> their actions, no matter what the "cause". That said, I firmly believe
> that if US foreign policy all these years had been non-meddling, 9/11
One COULD argue that we should meddle even more since 9/11 in an effort to
elliminate such people. However, that could easily be mistaken for, or
extened to, genocide. If we had never bothered them, they might still hate
us. They'd still have religious, historical, political, and economic reasons
to hate us. You can't rationalize with people like this. It's just like any
"Holy War."
> would not have happened. I also do not know what my own response would
> be had I lived in the Middle East my whole life, and watched Israeli
> tanks kill my kids, and had I seen US troops "save us" from their
> Saddam, and then not leave...ever. If I were Muslim, I'd be wondering
> if the US had plans to put troops in Mecca. No doubt, my rage would
> grow.
Israeli tanks aren't the ONLY things that kill someone's kids. The whole
region has been at war for 100's of years. If Israel backed down', they'd
risk being the middle east's doormat forever. No, I think the Muslims need
to back down, or be forced to.
> But I would like to believe that reasonable men would not have
> come to the conclusion that working people in the US (ie, in the WTC)
> should die in order for the US to be confronted on its continuing role
> in my part of the world.
And that is what makes these people so evil.
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