At 06:34 PM 11/20/2002 -0800, Lucky Green wrote:
I recently obtained an illuminating recording of a speech by a judge
sitting on the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals which was given before the
San Francisco Commonwealth Club. In said recording, the honorable judge
proposes the issuance of formal federal torture warrants. The reader may
or may not take comfort in the fact that the honorable judge firmly
insists that the needles he proposes to be inserted under the
fingernails of suspects should be sterile.

Clearly, at least hygiene has progressed in the last 300 years.
To flesh this out a little more - the judge was Stephen Trott, speaking on
September 18 2002 at the Commonwealth Club. Trott credits the torture
warrant idea to Alan Dershowitz, whom he describes as a good friend and a
"great civil libertarian".

Edited transcripts and a RealAudio recording of Trott's speech are
available at <http://www.commonwealthclub.org/archive/02/02-09trott-intro.html> -
Trott's discussion (and apparent endorsement) of torture begins at
about 16:28 into the audio, and again during the Q&A session.


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