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On 18 Dec 2002 at 9:50, Major Variola (ret) wrote:
> Yeah, the Objectivists (TM) seem to have been taken over by 
> militant zionist interventionists too.

Of all the advanced states, Israel is arguably the one that 
accords least with Objectivist ideals.  It is nominally 
socialist in land and quite a lot of other stuff.  Of course if 
you are Jewish, that socialism can be set aside -- and is set 
aside to a greater or lesser extent for most Jews, though some 
Jews find it a lot easier to have a nominally socialist state 
treat stuff they care about as private property than other 
Jews.   Objectivists having orgasms over Israel because it is 
supposedly a liberal democracy is rather like communists having 
orgasms over Cuba because it was supposedly egalitarian.

It is also entertaining that the socialism of Israel is, like 
the socialism of the Sandinistas, a lot more socialist for 
ethnic groups that are hated than ethnic groups that are 
favored, which reminds me of the argument I sometimes hear from 
socialists about West Germany -- that all Germans were evil 
hateful nazi murderers, and therefore should have had a 
socialist economy imposed on them.

But I ramble and digress.  To get back on point, if those who 
purport to be objectivists are also militant zionist 
interventionists, we should not take their supposed objectivist 
ideals too seriously. 

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