-- On 18 Dec 2002 at 9:50, Major Variola (ret) wrote: > Yeah, the Objectivists (TM) seem to have been taken over by > militant zionist interventionists too.
Of all the advanced states, Israel is arguably the one that accords least with Objectivist ideals. It is nominally socialist in land and quite a lot of other stuff. Of course if you are Jewish, that socialism can be set aside -- and is set aside to a greater or lesser extent for most Jews, though some Jews find it a lot easier to have a nominally socialist state treat stuff they care about as private property than other Jews. Objectivists having orgasms over Israel because it is supposedly a liberal democracy is rather like communists having orgasms over Cuba because it was supposedly egalitarian. It is also entertaining that the socialism of Israel is, like the socialism of the Sandinistas, a lot more socialist for ethnic groups that are hated than ethnic groups that are favored, which reminds me of the argument I sometimes hear from socialists about West Germany -- that all Germans were evil hateful nazi murderers, and therefore should have had a socialist economy imposed on them. But I ramble and digress. To get back on point, if those who purport to be objectivists are also militant zionist interventionists, we should not take their supposed objectivist ideals too seriously. --digsig James A. Donald 6YeGpsZR+nOTh/cGwvITnSR3TdzclVpR0+pr3YYQdkG z6cMJ26RNdOfjBLQ98HcwFLdNTnpcyr6pXXAMyQK 4tzr0wMoswCmhku2MWXFlT4ncUNcScZtE4v7JMJS4