On Tue, Jan 21, 2003 at 05:44:59PM -0800, James A. Donald wrote:
>     --
> Harmon Seaver:
> > > > Well, but only a strike of the executives and some 
> > > > technicians. Not of the general workers.
> 
> James A. Donald:
> > > When they bring out the army against the strikers as well
> > > as foreign scab labor, it is the workers.
> 
> Harmon Seaver:
> >    Nope, not a chance. Most of the people out on strike were 
> >    executives
> 
> Then why the army?

   Why not the army? It is a government owned and run oil industry,
right? Always has been, IIRC. That's a good job for the army, they might as well
do some useful work.

> 
> > It's pretty clear by now that last Spring's attempted coup
> > and the current strike was all engineered by the CIA and the
> > current whitehouse scum.
> 
> Then why the army and the guest worker scab laborers? 

  Again, why not the army? If you have a coup being engineered by an evil
foreign power with the help of domestic traitors, why wouldn't the army be
involved in dealing with it?
  And why not bring in guest scab technicians -- technicians, mind you, there
aren't any laborers being brought in -- to replace the traitors? Considering
that Chavez was elected fairly and democratically, and that he does indeed have
the majority of the people on his side, including the army, and that, from all
accounts, all the violence has been caused by a minority with the help of the
CIA -- WTF? 
   It's really no more fascistic than what we have here -- where the oil
companies own the government. Really not nearly as much -- at least there you
have a lot of people voting, you have absolutely *huge* numbers of people
running around with a copy of their Constitution in their pocket -- and yes,
they have 91% literacy there -- so WTF are you complaining about? At least they
have a large portion of the citizenry there who actually know what the
Constitution is about and are actively taking part, unlike the US where most
people have never read the Constitution, don't vote, and don't even know the
names of the SC justices. 

   Jim, it really sounds like you're just into  some really rigid, knee-jerk,
mindset with some antiquated notions of left/right and can't take the blinders
off to see what's going on. As far as I can see, the US with all it's corporate
welfare, military/industrial complex, and prison/security/industrial complex is
one hell of a lot more repressive and socialistic than Venezuela. 


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Harmon Seaver   
CyberShamanix
http://www.cybershamanix.com

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