Aaron wrote:
> 
> On Fri, 18 Feb 2000 12:58:25 -0500, Sunder wrote:
> 
> >> PS: concluding that someone needs to die because their unorthodox ideas
> >> cause the theft of your property is the sign of an emotionally unbalanced
> >> person.  Libertarians don't have the right to initiate force against me,
> >> fuckface.
> >
> >Oh you're absolutely right.  Theives don't need to die, they need to die
> >slowly and painfully.  Especially the commie ones who proclaim, "I may
> >steal from you with the full force of a government, buit you do not have
> >the right to initiate force against me so as to protect your property."
> >
> >Yes, those commie fuckhead morons need to have their nuts roasted slowly
> >over a lighter.
> 
> You're moronic.  I've never done anything to threaten your property.

ROTFLMAO!  You're a commie, that's enough of a threat to everyone's property.
How are you not a threat to my property or my earnings?  You're a commie,
as a commie, you want everyone to give up their property and share it with
you. 
 
> I don't care about your money or your stuff.

Then go start a commie commune and leave us cypherpunks alone.  We like money
and stuff.  Nobody's forcing you to use our mailing lists. Start your own
that promote your own agenda.

> You're just another
> thin-necked geek with a fat wallet and a soft dick.

Huh, two out of three wrong. Little do you know.  I'm far from being 
skinny, so my neck isn't thin. I'm far from being rich, so my wallet is 
skinny, and yes, if I saw you, my dick would stay soft.  Commies don't turn 
me on.
 
> The only wealth I care about is capital used by the bourgeoisie for
> oppressing the workers.  That's the only thing I care about destroying.

Oppressing the workers how?  This is the USA, there isn't any FORCED labor
here, unlike, say Communist China.  Nobody is forcing anyone to work for
anyone else.  You can quit your job any time you like.  Gee, a word comes
to mind whenever you spew your McDonald's communist theories at us, yet,
the countries that practice what they call communism are what you're
fighting against.  They're the ones who opress the workers.

Granted, Uncle Sam does steal about 50% of our salaries from us, but at 
least a good percentage of that goes to useful things such as firefighters
and cops.  Yes, cops can be corrupt, etc., etc., etc. - that's a side
topic.

But the point is that it's not the "bourgeoisie oppressing the 
workers," it's not the rich forcing the poor to work for them - quite the
contrary.  Big businesses don't force you to work for them.  Rich folks
don't force you to work for them.  They are big and rich for a reason -
when they were poor, they made the right decisions, and thus became rich.

However, go to a commie state such as Cuba, Vietnam, North Korea, or 
Red China, and guess who forces you to work... The commie government.
Guess who profits from your work - the commies.

Hell, in the USA you can be a street bum and live off the land, or beg
or live off welfare like a leach, and no one will force you to work.

At this point whom is oppressing whom?  I'd say, I as a worker, who am
not forced to work for any particular company or in any particular job,
but I'm forced by Uncle Sam, at the point of a gun with the threat of 
jail time to pay taxes, some of which would go to support lazy fucken 
bums.  Sure, if I decide to opt out and be a homeless bum, or welfare
recipient, I don't have to work, but that's not a choice I'd like to
make.  Why?  I'm a worker, not a leech.  And if forced to piss away half
my earnings so that leeches may live, I'll bitch about that, but I'd
rather have half of my profits, than nothing.

It sure ain't my "bourgeoisie" employer forcing me to work for the 
benefit of those who are lazy.

So yes, you are a hypocrite, and a moron, and a threat to everyone's
freedom and property.  Why? Because what you would force us to do is
give up our rights, our property, our work - all for your benefit - where
you would crawl your way to becoming the commie government and forcing
us to work for you.  Look in the mirror to see the one who would use
force to oppress and exploit the workers.

Communism isn't a worker's paradise, it's a leech's paradise!

We workers, by our very nature, aren't communists, we're 
capitalists.  We don't want, nor need to be saved by hypocrites like you
who would force us into slave labor for your hypocrite's benefit.  We would
scream "Show me the money, bitch!" and laugh at your vile attempts.  We
wouldn't accept your commie ideals, and we wouldn't allow you to rise to
power.  We would vote with our wallets against *YOU*.



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