At 4:30 PM -0800 2/11/00, Matthew Gream wrote:
>If you were to read the sentence that follows the one you quoted, you would
>find that I say "however, until such time" to acknowledge two things.
>Firstly, that an ideal society takes time to reach (if at all reachable),
>and secondly, that when an ideal society is reached, it needs to prevent
>itself from slipping back to a non-ideal society.
I understood your point. And I still think your point is pernicious.
The very notion of "perfection means rights won't be needed" is what is
pernicious. Seen frequently in the gun debate. ("If we lived in a perfect
society, guns would not be needed and there would be no need for the Second
Amendment.")
Whether or not we can ever achieve "perfection" is not the issue. What is
wrong-headed is the very line of reasoning you have used.
I am not interested in trying to persuade you otherwise, so I won't comment
any further in this thread. I just had to point out how deeply flawed your
whole manifesto is to some of us (hopefully _most_ of us).
--Tim May
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Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money,
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