At 12:41 PM -0800 2/12/00, Matthew Gream wrote:
>> Your "in a perfect society locks and ciphers would not be needed"
>> philosophy is...uninteresting.
>
>Tim, please do not misquote me. Perhaps from your perspective, it is
>uninteresting.
You need to work on your understanding of English. I didn't attribute that
as a direct quote, with either quote marks or "Gream said:" I characterized
that phrase as your point of view, which nothing in your comments earlier
or even here, below, disputes.
>
>I make the assertion that 10000 years ago, locks and ciphers were not needed
>because at that time, society was not sufficiently constructed to need them.
Nonsense. Various methods of denying access, hiding information, etc. have
existed for a lot longer than 10,000 years. Whether they metal locks or
numerical ciphers is not the point. They had gates and doors which could be
barred from the inside, they had secret information (initiation rights
would otherwise be meaningless). You mistake the modern instantiations of
privacy tools for the whole.
>I make the assertion that 1000 years henceforth, locks and ciphers _may not_
>be needed, because in such a time, society may be sufficiently advanced
>beyond these notions.
What a nitwit.
--Tim May
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Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money,
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W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets,
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