On Thu, 2 Mar 2000, Duncan Frissell wrote:

> At 12:29 PM 3/1/00 -0600, Jim Choate wrote:
> 
> >Capitalism is not equivalent to freedom in any manner. If anything the
> >pursuit of capitalist goals has driven more abuse than help by many
> >orders of magnitude.
> >
> >There is a reason the Constitution doesn't mention business rights or
> >commerce in general except in two sections (i.e. inter-state commerce and
> >the pursuit of happiness (it's implied)).
> 
> You (like the Supremes) forgot:
> 
> Section. 10.
> 
>       Clause 1:
> 
> No State shall enter into any Treaty, Alliance, or Confederation; grant 
> Letters of Marque and Reprisal; coin Money; emit Bills of Credit; make any 
> Thing but gold and silver Coin a Tender in Payment of Debts; pass any Bill 
> of Attainder, ex post facto Law, or Law impairing the Obligation of 
> Contracts, or grant any Title of Nobility.

Which is completely and utterly off topic. One of the sorriest strawman
attempts I've seen from you in a long time. Nowhere in there does it
mention 'business' only generating money that is independant of the
federal system.
 
> >Capitalism is not the answer to anything, it's the mechanism that funds
> >the society not defines it. Nothing more, most especialy it is not the
> >final goal of human effort.
> 
> Capitalism is an attack formation created by that great Classical Economist 
> Karl Marx.  Classical Economics has been obsolete since the middle of the 
> last century and the development of Neo-Classical Economics and the Theory 
> of Marginal Utility.

Bullshit, 'classical' smassical. You're playing word games and saying
nothing.
 
> "Capitalism" isn't the answer to anything but liberalism is.  These days we 
> liberals use the term market liberalism in the US to distinguish ourselves 
> from the followers of Karl who use that term liberalism here because 
> they're too chicken to call themselves socialists.

Liberalism isn't the answer to anything either. Respect and toleration
are. Liberalisms are people who are smart enough to know that anyone
calling themselves a socialist in a democratic system is going to get
exactly what they deserve.

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