----- Forwarded message from Mirimir <[email protected]> ----- Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2014 20:01:10 -0600 From: Mirimir <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [tor-talk] Questions about NSA monitoring of Tor users. Message-ID: <[email protected]> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 Reply-To: [email protected]
On 07/13/2014 06:57 PM, z9wahqvh wrote: >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: Mark McCarron <[email protected]> >> Date: Sun, Jul 13, 2014 at 9:27 AM >> Subject: Re: [tor-talk] Questions about NSA monitoring of Tor users. >> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> <SNIP> >> Did no one notice trillions are being drained from the US economy >> into some unidentified military project for the last decade or more??? >> >> It would seem to indicate that there is a Manhatten-style project underway. >> >> do you have any links or additional info about this? beyond the vague > sense of large black budgets, I'm not sure exactly what you might be > referring to. Well, the modern NSA _is_ a Manhattan-scale project. According to Wikipedia[1]: | The Manhattan Project began modestly in 1939, but grew to employ | more than 130,000 people and cost nearly US$2 billion (about $26 | billion in 2014 dollars). A Snowden leak reveals that NSA's budget has grown from about 7e+9 USD per year in 2004 to about 11e+9 USD per year in 2014[2]. The 2004-2014 total is about 91e+9 USD, well over three times the stated total for the Manhattan Project. But that doesn't count cleanup costs. For the Hanford site alone, Wikipedia reports[3]: | Citing the 2014 Hanford Lifecycle Scope Schedule and Cost report, | the 2014 estimated cost of the remaining Hanford clean up is $113.6 | billion - more than $3 billion per year for the next six years, | with a lower cost projection of approximately $2 billion per year | until 2046. So, even counting cleanup costs, they're comparable. Perhaps Mark can add some specifics that haven't come out yet. [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manhattan_Project [2] http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/08/29/your-cheat-sheet-to-americas-secret-intelligence-budget/ [3] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanford_Site -- tor-talk mailing list - [email protected] To unsubscribe or change other settings go to https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk ----- End forwarded message -----
