On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 09:32:37AM -0800, Parker Moore wrote: > Interesting conjectures! But... What do they have to do with https everywhere > that Eric mentioned? They're very general thoughts. And even if we only have > 5 years, why not enforce https on .gov sites until then? Seems like a win to > me, no matter how long government survives. > > Parker >
They have something to do with https everywhere on .gov IMHO. I don't want to read "https everywhere on shit*". Conjectured slave suggests use "https everywhere on conjectured pyramid". > > Am 14.11.2014 um 09:06 schrieb Georgi Guninski <[email protected]>: > > > > Didn't know .gov dudes _openly_ post here. > > > > For a discussion, let me make some conjectures about *us.gov. > > > > Conjecture 1. USA is a pyramid, AKA Ponzi scheme > > Conjecture 2. USA will die in its present form in at most 5 > > years (possibly causing troubles to other nations too). > > Conjecture 3. USA will be bought by the People's Republic > > of China (PRC) in at most 5 years (possibly with other > > investors). [This already happened to some USA corporations]. > > > > Best of luck, > > -- > > gg > > > > > >> On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 11:13:41AM -0500, Eric Mill wrote: > >> Hey, > >> > >> I wrote a piece today for my organization, 18F, about our HTTPS-everywhere > >> policy for the .gov websites we build inside the US government: > >> > >> https://18f.gsa.gov/2014/11/13/why-we-use-https-in-every-gov-website-we-make/ > >> > >> I wanted to give this list some extra context, since I understand the US > >> government is a big, complicated, freighted topic. Below is my *personal* > >> attempt to describe my workplace and is not anything close to an official > >> description or the voice of the government. > >> > >> 18F[1] is a team of ~70 people working as full time employees inside the US > >> federal government. (The name comes from the street intersection -- 18th St > >> & F St -- that its HQ is at in DC.) 18F as a unit was created around a year > >> ago to be a competent, top class in-house technology team for the US > >> federal government. > >> > >> A driving idea here is that the government shouldn't need to outsource its > >> *entire* technical brain to contractors, and that government services can > >> be simple and even beautiful. If you've noticed what's happened over the > >> last few years in the UK at https://www.gov.uk by the Government Digital > >> Service[2], 18F takes a lot of inspiration from them. > >> > >> 18F is housed inside the General Services Administration, an independent > >> federal agency[3] that does as many different things as its name implies, > >> from running all the buildings to housing the nation's data catalog at > >> Data.gov. It's an "independent" federal agency in that it's not subject to > >> the same level of direct executive and White House control that cabinet > >> agencies are. It's the same kind of "independent" that lets the FCC > >> potentially disagree with the President on net neutrality, for example. > >> > >> The team has people all over the country (it has a big SF office, for > >> example), many of which have either never been in government before, or who > >> came in after doing the Presidential Innovation Fellows[4] program. > >> > >> I joined 18F after working for 5 years on open data apps, infrastructure, > >> and policy at the Sunlight Foundation[5], a non-profit in DC that pushes > >> for open government. I had also done a fair amount of work around privacy, > >> HTTPS, and ongoing judicial activity around surveillance. I get to continue > >> doing all of that work in my personal capacity. > >> > >> I say this just to try to communicate that the 18F team has some very > >> sincere people trying to make the US government work better for people all > >> over the world, and to do right by technology in the process. We have > >> substantial support and autonomy to make that happen. > >> > >> When it comes to HTTPS, the .gov surface area is absolutely enormous, and > >> moving it helps move the whole Internet forward. Bringing the government in > >> line with the rest of the web/security community (and being loud about it) > >> is one of my big priorities at 18F, and so I wanted to share this here with > >> you all. > >> > >> -- Eric > >> > >> [1] https://18f.gsa.gov/ > >> [2] https://gds.blog.gov.uk/ > >> [3] > >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Independent_agencies_of_the_United_States_government > >> [4] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presidential_Innovation_Fellows > >> [5] https://sunlightfoundation.com/ > >> > >> -- > >> konklone.com | @konklone <https://twitter.com/konklone>
