On 10/06/15 07:36, Adrian McCullagh wrote:
Dear All,

I with 4 colleagues of mine (3 at the Queensland University of
Technology (Cryptographers all)and one from the University of
Queensland (Legal E-commerce researcher) have been working on a paper
dealing with the Australian Defence Trade Control Act which corresponds
to the proposed US ITAR changes.

Sounds interesting,

They are basically trying to reintroduce the "born secret" principle, which in US law exists only in an unchallenged part of the Atomic Energy Act; though that concept has not been tested against First Amendment rights as the only previous case of note (United States v. The Progressive, 1979) was dropped by the Government before it reached the Supreme Court.

But it's "born again secret" as well as "born secret, again" - it applies to all previous technical data, whether widely disseminated or not.


-- Peter Fairbrother




Without giving everything away on our forthcoming paper, it appears to
me that if this type of regulation had been in place in Germany in 1938,
then it is highly likely that Einstein would never have read the Hahn -
Strassmann paper dealing with splitting a uranium atom.  That paper
written in 1938 (December I believe) was read by Einstein in March 1939
and it directly lead to Einstein sending a letter to Roosevelt, which in
turn resulted in 1942 to the establishment of the Manhattan project.
Now if NAZI Germany had restricted that publication NAZI Germany could
have developed the bomb itself which could have completely altered the
outcome.

Basically, if regimes like the DCTA/ITAR rules are expanded then it
works both ways and there could be a stifling of publication research
due to bureaucratic mishandling.  Though it could assist in the spy
business as in the cold war.


Dr. Adrian McCullagh
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Snap, from Australia:

http://www.smh.com.au/it-pro/security-it/dangerous-minds-are-maths-teachers-australias-newest-threat-20150608-ghira9.html

     "Australian academics who teach mathematics may need to run new
     ideas by the Department of Defence before sharing them or risk
     imprisonment.

     Some academics are set to become much more familiar with the
     department's Defence Export Control Office (DECO), a unit that
     enforces the Defence Trade Control Act 2012, Australia's end of a
     2007 pact with the US and UK over defence trade.

     Until recently, DECO only regulated physically exported weapons and
     so-called "dual use" items such as encryption, computing hardware
     and biological matter.

     However in March the act was updated to include "intangible supply",
     which is intended to prohibit the transfer of knowledge from
     Australia that could be used to produce weapons."

Alfie

On Tue, Jun 9, 2015, at 05:36 PM, pete wrote:
 > Proposed US ITAR changes. New regs, for comment, not yet in law or
 > in force.
 >
 >
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/nra-gun-blogs-videos-web-forums-threatened-by-new-obama-regulation/article/2565762
 >
 > www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/FR-2015-06-03/pdf/2015-12844.pdf
<http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/FR-2015-06-03/pdf/2015-12844.pdf>
 >
 >
 > Actually, it says, for the first time explicitly, that publishing
 > widely on the internet would be enough to put data into the
 > public domain
 > [000]. Sounds good?
 >
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