On October 8, 2015 1:19:58 PM Travis Biehn <[email protected]> wrote:
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There's one message: Whatever is technically possible will happen. It will continue to happen, whether they be your government, someone else's government a corporation that handles your data or by criminals. Build systems that are secure from what is technically possible; not because you've deleted the logs - but because there is no data to grab. -Travis
On that much, we are in agreement. > I am amused by the theory that this is all an elaborate troll, in 10 years
Snowden will declare he personally made it up in one epic last disclosure, with a dickbutt on the last slide.
Dickbutt, heh. Snowden was probably a /b/tard too, would claim it was all for the epic lulz.
-Shelley
On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 2:10 PM, Shelley <[email protected]> wrote: > On October 8, 2015 10:44:02 AM Travis Biehn <[email protected]> wrote: > > Who cares about these personalities and their websites? Who cares if JYA is >> jerk/whacko/nerd/wizard mage? >> You should assume he is an attacker, just like everyone else. >> >> Getting caught up in this he-said-she-said is totally, ultimately, >> absurdly >> pointless. >> >> Who cares about cryptome keeping server logs? If you're worried about >> showing up in logs then you ought to be using TAILS. JYAs logs are just >> less accurate copies of what the TLAs, his hosting provider, their >> upstream >> peers, the guys on the lower floor at the PX & the memory scrapers >> implanted on his server already keep. >> >> -Travis >> > > You're right about the privacy aspect, but still missing the entire point. > > I don't care about showing up in server logs, although my personal > security practices are much different now than they were six years ago. I > may have spotted my own information in the data, and I might be able to > prove it (the Palm Pre is in a box 'o bits & crap somewhere.) > > The bigger picture is not why Cryptome appears to be distributing old log > files, but validity of the GHCQ slide in question. That's why all the data > is being put up for scrutiny, and we are losing sight of the importance of > it with all the noise. > > Doesn't matter if JY is a fed asset. Doesn't matter if Best is a troll > with a personal vendetta against JY/Cryptome (neither of which I believe to > be true, but still.) > > A slide was presented as being part of the Snowden dump. A researcher has > shown that with these log files, anyone could have made this slide. This > is a Big Fucking Deal with possibly numerous implications about a much > larger dataset. > > Forget about who is saying what and just look at the data and draw your > own conclusions. We are better than this. > > -Shelley > >> >> On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 1:28 PM, John Young <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > Mike Best should keep digging, hardly scratched the surface of yards >> > way too fenced by secrecy. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> -- >> Twitter <https://twitter.com/tbiehn> | LinkedIn >> <http://www.linkedin.com/in/travisbiehn> | GitHub < >> http://github.com/tbiehn> >> | TravisBiehn.com <http://www.travisbiehn.com> | Google Plus >> <https://plus.google.com/+TravisBiehn> >> > > > -- Twitter <https://twitter.com/tbiehn> | LinkedIn <http://www.linkedin.com/in/travisbiehn> | GitHub <http://github.com/tbiehn> | TravisBiehn.com <http://www.travisbiehn.com> | Google Plus <https://plus.google.com/+TravisBiehn>
