> > Razer [email protected] > Sun Oct 11 15:59:29 EDT 2015 10/11/2015 11:43 AM, Michael Best wrote: > > If so, then why did he spend a week denying it, calling me a liar, > > saying the data is fake and accusing it of being disinfo? > Because unlike Farcebook twitter Google Apple and all the others who > 'squealed like a pig' after Snowden's leaks, a FISA court would put JYA > so deep in a hole no one would ever hear of his existence again. You're > NOT ALLOWED TO EVEN MENTION that the 'suits' had been in contact, no > less compromised your system... > RR
That would explain keeping silent, *NOT* making up lies about me and saying the data is fake. On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 2:43 PM, Michael Best <[email protected]> wrote: > Has anyone stopped to think that perhaps it was on absolute purpose as a >> warning of lack of safety on his servers due to known 'but unable to speak >> about’ system compromise? Ie. The same fashion as a warrant canary, or what >> have you? >> JYA’s stance has always seemed to have been: You’re not safe, please do >> not be deluded into believing any systems, statements, or mathematical >> systems will always have your back. Perhaps this is just to bring it into >> the absolute light for those too dense to grasp this mindset. >> The above scenario would also explain his general lack of input on the >> situation — I myself have been expecting miles and miles of (interestingly >> grotesque almost) prose about the situation. >> _benjamin >> > > If so, then why did he spend a week denying it, calling me a liar, saying > the data is fake and accusing it of being disinfo? And why not notify > people on the website instead of the occasional tweet about how all logs > leak/it's "not the worst"? > > And if it *was* purposeful, how is *that* okay? If he leaked four months > worth of his users' logs and metadata including search terms, *to make a > point*? > > >> On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 2:02 PM, Shelley <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> Calling bullshit. Mirimirs right, this makes no sense. And JYA says >> netsol won't let him delete the logs but Netsol says logs are disabled by >> default[ >> https://www.networksolutions.com/support/how-to-enable-download-the-web-logs/] >> and you have to turn them on. >> So how the fuckd this really happen? >> I truly don't know. I don't have any more info than anyone else, I was >> just musing about how it could have happened. Obviously, hearing JY's >> explanation would be the best thing. >> Also agree re: the /var/log issue, but I get the impression that the >> restored files weren't kept in the normal file tree structure. Again, I >> simply don't know and I'm not trying to be an overt JY apologist - I'm just >> saying sometimes, shit happens. It would help if he would weigh in instead >> of having dorks like me positing hypotheticals. >> -S >> >> Mirimir <[email protected]> >> Are you arguing that users could have found those logs? >> I almost can't imagine that. Logs are normally in /var/log/ somewhere, >> and I can't imagine making them searchable. And indeed, I can't imagine >> how Cryptome archives would have included anything from /var/log/, even >> after system restore from backups. >> <--SNIP--> >> > Should access logs be kept for that long? Absolutely not. From what I> >> have read in the email exchange that was posted, the log files were> >> included in a NetSol total restore. My guess is that John/Cryptome did> not >> intentionally keep these files, and did not realize these files were> >> included in the archive. >> But that's the thing. Logs should have been in /var/log/. And how would >> the "NetSol total restore" have changed that? >> > When I do incremental backups or updates on my own systems, I don't> >> usually go back and check the integrity of files I've already archived> in >> my closed system. I can see where this could be an honest mistake> that has >> gotten blown way out of proportion. It's a good lesson to be> more aware of >> these types of glitches. >> I still don't get how logs would have ended up in archives. Maybe JYA >> prepared a special set of archives for a collaborator. Maybe for someone >> helping him to understand what had happened. And then maybe he forgot >> about doing that. Hard to say. >> >> >> >> On October 11, 2015 10:14:15 AM "Dr. J Feinstein" <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Resend–HTML email scrubbed >>> >> >>> >
