On Thu, 1 Sep 2016 13:59:16 -0700 "Stephen D. Williams" <s...@lig.net> wrote:
> On 9/1/16 1:35 PM, juan wrote: > > On Thu, 1 Sep 2016 13:21:19 -0700 > > "Stephen D. Williams" <s...@lig.net> wrote: > > > >> On 9/1/16 1:16 PM, juan wrote: > >>> On Thu, 1 Sep 2016 12:34:53 -0700 > >>> "Stephen D. Williams" <s...@lig.net> wrote: > >>> > >>>> Our > >>>> political system limits and weeds out crazy, preventing it from > >>>> taking over. > >>> The US is full of crazy fucks like you, and of course the > >>> % of crazy fucks among politicians, military murderers and the > >>> corporate mafia is even higher. > >>> > >> Says one of the craziest people most of us know. > >> > >> You have a loose definition of crazy. Or a crazy definition of > >> crazy. > >> > >> But I'll ask anyway: What's your evidence? > > > > Reality. And reality is exactly what crazy people have > > problem grasping. > > My reality is more real, and therefore more correct, than your > reality. Prove me wrong. > > So, let's go back to my statement: > "Our political system limits and weeds out crazy, preventing it from > taking over." > > Prove that isn't true. You made the crazy claim, you should prove it. However since you are one of those crazies you talk about, you can't do it. And I actually have zero interest in reading the kind of stuff that a hitlery clinton supporter (you in this case) can write. And to make things even crazier, you are a hitlery clinton supporter posting in an allegedly crypto-anarchist mailing list. The ANARCHIST bit should clue you in...if you were not out of touch with reality (i.e. crazy) > Especially prove that it isn't true for > Americans. The US government kept functioning normally even through > a civil war, world wars, 3 industrial revolutions, all kinds of > corruption, etc. Here, I'm not talking about exceptionalism in > general, just the point that if crazies make it into power, they are > limited and don't last. Point out a better system. (The British are > said to no longer be making fun of our political system as of > Brexit. ;-) ) > > I don't have time to get into it, but I think that the exceptionalism > perception, the quality of it, meaning, and use, is overblown in some > key ways. We have evidence that certain things work and certain > things don't. There is a big interplay with culture and back stories > that affect some of that, but most of it could transfer anywhere. > Maybe we're confused sometimes, but we have open debate to try to fix > that. We regularly fix things that aren't working with only things > like rights as being inviolable. It isn't 'we are Americans and > therefore you suck'. It is more like "we have this cool open source > government project, why not fork it and see if it works for you > better than that old governmentware you're running". We are tired of > being asked to fix your old broken down governmentputer because you > insist on running VMS and Windows. Or your cousin's obsolete system > because you can't support them well. Or whatever. If you can make > it work, then do it. Otherwise, upgrade. > > sdw > > >> sdw > >> > >