On 09/03/2016 12:22 AM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > On Sat, Sep 03, 2016 at 12:03:56AM -0600, Mirimir wrote: >> On 09/02/2016 11:30 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: >>> On Fri, Sep 02, 2016 at 10:33:58PM -0600, Mirimir wrote: >>>> On 09/02/2016 09:26 PM, Razer wrote: >>>>> On 09/02/2016 07:01 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: >>>>>> On Fri, Sep 02, 2016 at 06:06:24PM -0700, Razer wrote: >>>>>>> On 09/02/2016 05:51 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> individual sovereignty and anarchism >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Try "individual RESPONSIBILITY to the 'collective' called humanity and >>>>>>> Anarchism" and I'll nibble. Until then it's just Feudal Nihilism by >>>>>>> different means. >>>>>> >>>>>> Nihilism sounds like moral relativism, not very useful. >>>>>> >>>>>> "Feudal nihilism" - I don't understand what that's supposed to mean. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> It means you don't care what happens to the shitpile as long as you're >>>>> at the tip of the turd. >>>> >>>> I do feel some compassion for the shitpile. But playing in shit is just >>>> not very interesting. And change (or even transformation) is at best >>>> illusory. >>> >>> That is not agreeable, nor constructive, although the statement may be >>> provable over specific time periods and at certain levels of analysis. >> >> Maybe not agreeable or constructive to you, but accurate, I believe. > >>> But, for many of us, where "keeping out of it" means not engaging or >>> physically interacting with interesting folk who also exist within "our >>> nation", isolationism is intolerable! >> >> It doesn't mean that at all. > > You're not quite getting this point: > > > One particular issue at hand: DMV issued driver licenses. > > We have the options: > > - isolate (monastically, or with some friends) > > - not isolate > > In the case we 'not isolate', and we drive to another 'not-isolationist' > community, we then are presented with two options (amongst others like > "get a friend to drive me", but let's cut to the chase here): > > - drive by common law/ natural law right/ the blessing/ etc > > - obtain and drive with a state-issued driver license (eg DMV) > > Mirimir, when you say you choose to 'fly below the radar' or rather 'nod > and smile', what, specifically, are you suggesting in this very real and > current and modern scenario?
I have a driver license. My vehicles are certified safe. I have insurance. I drive prudently, avoiding attention. If detained by police, I am calm and respectful. Refusing any of those things is, in my humble opinion, just too fucking stupid for words. It's true that I learned those skills as a drug smuggler ;) But more generally, I fly below the radar when it's workable. > (And before you try to sidestep the issue: the properties are 97km > apart, driving and walking are your only means of transport, and you > have to meet in person not video conference, perhaps shipping a few > garbage bags of prime head or juicy tomatoes.) It's only a problem if you're so pigheaded that you need to openly defy authority ;) >>> Some say the leader of the Zealots was Jesus the Nazarene, the last King >>> of the jews and there is some evidence to this - a book where the author >>> alleges he read the last scroll of the Zealots in person, but was not >>> allowed a copy (can't remember the name of the book right now). >> >> That was a long time ago, and impossible to tell from bullshit. > > Except to the degree one can put credence in time dating and the > contents of an actual scroll at ground zero of the mutual suicide that > occurred at Masada from their self proclaimed (in said scroll) leader. What exactly should I care? Far more interesting is the Copiale Cipher. http://www.wired.com/2012/11/ff-the-manuscript/ https://scottishrite.org/about/media-publications/journal/article/the-copiale-cipher-an-early-german-masonic-ritual-unveiled/ > Feel free to only put credence in contemporary internet-accessible > blogs, rather than such scrolls, since it's on the internet it must be > true and all that... Mostly lies, for sure. But that's true for everything :(