On Sat, 3 Sep 2016 14:14:13 -0700 "Stephen D. Williams" <s...@lig.net> wrote:
> On 9/3/16 1:30 PM, juan wrote: > > On Sat, 3 Sep 2016 14:41:52 -0400 > > grarpamp <grarp...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > >> [1] > >> "The Cypherpunks mailing list is a mailing list for discussing > >> cryptography and its effect on society." > > incomplete, and you didn't even provide a 'source' > > > > plus, it's obvious that you haven't read the 1992 - ~1998 > > archives of the list. > > Archives? We read it in real time. Who - the fuck - is we. My message was addressed to grarpamp. I bet he didn't read it in real time. > > If it isn't directly about the access to or effects of cryptography > and related security practices, it is off topic. Because an absurdist like you says so. > > Early on, the list was largely about making sure that we had > unfettered access to encryption and reasoning about the consequences > of that. This was important for ecommerce, the Internet in general, > the boundaries of the First Amendment, and as the baseline for the > rest of the world. All kinds of power grabs were in play, directly > from the FBI and others. A weak response might have left us in a > position difficult to unravel. Most of that came out OK, Exactly what a US establishment puppet woud say. So let's see : 1992 : "Computer technology is on the verge of providing the ability for individuals and groups to communicate and interact with each other in a totally anonymous manner. " I wonder if Tim May is embarrased at having mande such a blatantly wrong predicion. " Interactions over networks will be untraceable, via extensive re- routing of encrypted packets and tamper-proof boxes which implement cryptographic protocols with nearly perfect assurance against any tampering." Where are such networks operating? What we do have is completely sabotaged hardware courtesy of Intel Inc, a criminal organization that May had something to do, I believe. > but there > are always ongoing concerns and implications. Oh... > > Arguing whether the end of the world is coming or whose fault it is > or who is making political or military mistakes is all completely off > topic. Sure. It's especially important that the political 'mistakes' of the american nazis be completely 'ignored'. > > sdw >