-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 09/05/2016 12:15 PM, Александр wrote: > forwarding part of my private conversation to the whole list: > > The new list is not the preferable solution, you know. It's the > only thing we see right now, but... We should realize, that this > splitting up will KILL the original list. It will kill the whole > concept and the core idea of the Cypher-Punk list/movement. > > The Snowden revelations and all the shit going on in the world in > the last 10 years has brought us (people with brain & spirit) to a > clear and unambiguous understanding that *"THE CYPHERPUNK > LIST-CONCEPT MUST EVOLVE, -> THUS MUST BE CHANGED, BECOMING MUCH > BROADER". *And the focus, as John Young wrote, cannot be on > Apolitical (relatively) crypto-math-numbers only as it was > before... > > Times have irreversibly changed -> thus the issues for discussion > must be much much *BROADER*.
Well that's odd. I wonder what it's about? Splitting the list into what? Two with different themes? One Moderated and one Unmoderated? If the latter, that's a perilous course. One sees a lot of "twin" lists and such that are one sterile and stereotyped, the other totally overrun with tards. Because once upon a time, half or more of the people on the original list who took an interest in keeping it alive /without/ censorship bailed, and those who stayed behind were gradually overwhelmed. When the means to eliminate a public voice by direct force are not practicable, death by a thousand paper cuts may get the job done. Splitting an online forum may be a decisive move in that direction, or harmless and productive, depending the situation. As someone already pointed out, there is already a cryptography list, which seems to provide more or less what any advocates for moderation could ask for. People have been talking about the CPunks list charter. I have not seen it. What Sovereign signed it, and what powers does the Crown delegate to us, for what tribute in return? Just curious. Will post a message to this same thread that enlarges on "my" input to the "public" conversation. Ⓐ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJX0hLOAAoJEECU6c5XzmuqncIIAK/xdnoMhFQhJr1F8PBo4VoK rf/JS934fDG8dH2gGqucoHcf2Cu2bo8TKYZLspCSY1chj7ygCk8LKkgzkBXy3M1Y d9+zq6cHpCzdfPYi7VdJNz5DL+kpczR8Yo6Qvc+K7jrRrL3fh9wimy1Iy/ho+oKl +jdAUcqWEFrKmWfIoG6ineIwOzan+7lB+T/4TQdi6Y2m3+qoUXSC5/TNiTqz41k5 czpo4xEoXCeThocM5e66ZklCT4L82kO9mQ56LmFTTK7ego2wi4dGfxlIFuA66/4J 2CDKCNLtNuPC/JmJOK+/egUSxOFwDmZOB2OQfy6c2UfGBWrJ5DiX8efZICSRtOw= =V0dY -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----