“fascism” from wikipedia - come on, there’s enough history and stuff here where 
we don’t need private definitions of the terms, you can actually even go read 
“the Doctrine Of Fascism: written when it was a viable political marketing 
strategy and not simply pejorative : 
Fascism was influenced by both left and right, conservative and 
anti-conservative, national and supranational, rational and anti-rational.[39] 
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism#cite_note-ah.brookes.ac.uk-39> A number 
of historians regard fascism as either a revolutionary centrist doctrine, as a 
doctrine that mixes philosophies of the left and the right, or as both of those 
things.[40] <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism#cite_note-sr3-40>[41] 
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism#cite_note-er71-41> Fascism was founded 
during World War I <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_I> by Italian 
national syndicalists <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_syndicalism> who 
drew upon left-wing <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left-wing_politics> and 
right-wing <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right-wing_politics> political views.
Some scholars consider fascism to be right-wing because of its social 
conservatism <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_conservatism> and its 
authoritarian means of opposing egalitarianism 
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egalitarianism>.[42] 
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism#cite_note-The_Routledge_companion_to_fascism_and_the_far_right-42>[43]
 
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism#cite_note-Modern_Free_Society_and_Its_Nemesis:_Liberty_Versus_Conservatism_in_the_New_Millennium-43>
 Roderick Stackelberg places fascism—including Nazism 
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazism>, which he says is "a radical variant of 
fascism"—on the political right, explaining that, "The more a person deems 
absolute equality among all people to be a desirable condition, the further 
left he or she will be on the ideological spectrum. The more a person considers 
inequality to be unavoidable or even desirable, the further to the right he or 
she will be."[44] <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism#cite_note-google6-44>
Italian Fascism <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_Fascism> gravitated to 
the right in the early 1920s.[45] 
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism#cite_note-ZeevSternhell-45>[46] 
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism#cite_note-massachusetts-46> A major 
element of fascist ideology that has been deemed to be far-right is its stated 
goal to promote the right of a supposedly superior people to dominate, while 
purging society of supposedly inferior elements.[47] 
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism#cite_note-Oliver_H._Woshinsky_2008._p._156-47>
In 1919 Benito Mussolini <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benito_Mussolini> 
described fascism as a movement that would strike "against the backwardness of 
the right and the destructiveness of the left".[48] 
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism#cite_note-varldenshistoria.se-48>[49] 
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism#cite_note-littlefield-49> Later, the 
Italian Fascists described their ideology as right-wing in the political 
program The Doctrine of Fascism 
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Doctrine_of_Fascism>, stating: "We are free 
to believe that this is the century of authority, a century tending to the 
'right,' a fascist century."[50] 
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism#cite_note-Jeffrey_Thompson_Schnapp_2000.2C_p._57-50>[51]
 
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism#cite_note-Benito_Mussolini_1935.2C_p._26-51>
 Mussolini stated that fascism's position on the political spectrum was not a 
serious issue for fascists: "Fascism, sitting on the right, could also have sat 
on the mountain of the center ... These words in any case do not have a fixed 
and unchanged meaning: they do have a variable subject to location, time and 
spirit. We don't give a damn about these empty terminologies and we despise 
those who are terrorized by these words."[52] 
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism#cite_note-Gentile.2C_Emilio_2005._p._205-52>

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Joshua Case
jwc...@gmail.com <mailto:jwc...@gmail.com>

“International tensions. Mounting international tensions. First there were 
states of precautionary alert, then there were enhanced readiness centers. This 
was followed by maximum arc situational preparedness. We can measure the 
gravity of events by tracing the increasingly abstract nature of the 
terminology. One more level of vagueness and that could be it."

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>> I looked up the (Google?) definition of "fascist", and it stated:
>> / fas·cism     //ˈfaSHˌizəm/     //noun      //an authoritarian
>> and nationalistic right-wing system of government and social
>> organization./
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>> 1. /synonyms:/       /authoritarianism
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>> /(in general use) extreme right-wing, authoritarian, or intolerant
>> views or practice./
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>> But that seems to be a circular definition:  It refers to
>> "right-wing", but doesn't explain why (other than common usage)
>> "fascism" is thought to be "right wing". I was under the impression
>> that 'traditional' fascism involved government control (but not
>> ownership) of the means of production.  But Socialism, I thought,
>> amounted to heavy taxation of the means of production, which is
>> tantamount to government control, too.  And Communism might simply
>> be labelled a form of extreme Socialism.  So why isn't "fascism"
>> merely seen as being another form of "Socialism"?
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> My preferred definition of fascism describes it as rule by a wealthy
> oligarchy composed of industrialists and financiers, a.k.a.
> capitalists, under a veneer of pretended "democracy."
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> On the domestic front, fascist States consolidate and expand the power
> of a ruling elite through a propaganda regimen presenting an
> existential conflict between the country's racial and ethnic "rightful
> owners" and selected racial, ethnic and foreign scapegoats.
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> On the international front, fascist States wage aggressive wars to
> further the commercial interests of their ruling elites, under the
> pretext of national self defense against notional existential threats
> to the State's racial and ethnic "rightful owners."
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> Today, I view U.S. Progressive Liberal and Conservative Right
> constituencies as products of marketing campaigns respectively
> promoting covert and overt, or soft and hard, fascist values and
> agendas to the public.  I view the political conflict between the
> nominal Left and Right at the national policy level as a friendly
> competition between financiers (Left) and industrialists (Right) for
> dominance in setting national policy for their own benefit.
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