On Tue, 7 Feb 2017 21:50:33 -0500 bbrewer <bbre...@littledystopia.net> wrote:
> > > On Feb 7, 2017, at 9:20 PM, juan <juan....@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Your first statement is plainly wrong. > > > > Anarchism is a political philosophy that rejects > > government BECAUSE government is a criminal enterprise. > > > > http://www.dictionary.com/browse/anarchism?s=t > > > > "a doctrine urging the abolition of government or > > governmental restraint as the indispensable condition for full > > social and political liberty. " > > > > People who claim they are against gov't but don't respect > > rights are NOT anarchists. For example, all the 'anarcho' > > commie clowns are not really anarchists. > > > > I was curious about your stance on this matter, actually. I happen to > agree with you here; share the wealth away, if you wish… But forcing > someone to belong to such an agreement seems so not anarchist at all > — It is curious to me as to why so many ‘old tyme’ anarchists thought > this way. If you are thinking about 19th century anarchists, I don't know how many were anti property. Maybe many were, but I can't say for sure. At any rate, people like Bakunin had interesting ideas apart from their (not so good) economic analyses. > For what it’s worth, my license plate reads: “Agorist”. I > believe in it, and unlike so much writing, I believe the doing is > what matters. Yes, true. But the theory needs to be worked out sometimes... > One can only write so much. (Yes, I realize paying the > state for such a plate is ironic, but it’s a double edged sword of > irony, and it costs $25 a year for this pleasure…). What may be more problematic is that tagging yourself with such a plate sort of gives the game away? > > Juan, would you define yourself as ‘anarchist without adjectives’? Not sure. Probably not, because there are some substantial differences in what different people consider true anarchism. > > > > > 2. A 'Libertarian' is not NECESSARILY an anarchist. > > > > Of course WRONG AGAIN. > > > > Libertarianism is based on rights to life liberty and > > property. Government violates those rights, by definition. > > > > So yeah, the only real libertarians are the ones who fully > > reject government. Advocates of so called 'limited' > > government on the other hand are frauds and dangerous criminals. > > > > The notion, and fact, that there are self proclaimed ‘minarchists’ > makes me very very sad and confused indeed. Actually, the ‘party’ of > libertarianism probably most aligns with this term, no? More than likely I guess. The serious and academic people who get invited to cocktail parties are all Respectable Statists. > > Core underlying insane problems here? a) minarchist. Uhhhh. b) > everyone has their own pieces of the pie that they like; group them; > guess what? Entire pie. So, useless functionally, and useless > conceptually. Yes, exactly. Just like some minarchist 'libertarians' believe in the divine right of the state to control the courts and police others believe in 'free' state-controlled 'education' or 'healthchare' or 'science' or whatever. And of course the result is state control of everything. > > > > > >> (example: A person who is opposed to violations of the NAP, but > >> who has no problem with a 'government' which doesn't employ > >> violations of NAP. > > > > That's pretty much absurd. Governments by definition violate > > the 'nap'. Governments are based on the "obey or die" > > 'philosophy'. > > > > > Yup. This is what I said in an earlier post, but far more succinct. > If you or your group are not forcing beliefs on others who do not > fully align, well, you ain’t no ‘government’, are ye? Right. Even the talk about groups doesn't make much sense to me. Seems like a case of "if you don't like porn, don't watch porn". One can say that there's a "group of people who don't like porn" but it's mostly an abstraction. If a member of the group one day decides that he now likes porn, the porn-haters have no 'jurisdiction' over him. > > Side note: I find it funny, amusing, depressing, and perhaps > regretful that so many post from un-attributable accounts. This is my > name; This is my domain; Domain is registered to the house in which I > am sitting in, in which my children are sleeping. Well, you can find my surname in the archives =P > Accountability in belief goes a long way.
