On 09/13/2017 02:30 PM, jim bell wrote: > On Wednesday, September 13, 2017, 10:50:40 AM PDT, Marina Brown > <catskillmar...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On 09/13/2017 07:04 AM, John Young wrote: > >> The Terrifying Power of Internet Censors >> >> > https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/13/opinion/cloudflare-daily-stormer-charlottesville.html >> >> >> Terrifying! > >> >> >> >> > >>I have a feeling that Internet Registrars and Cloudflare are doing this > for their own legal protection. > > > > I have a feeling that you are inventing reasoning that would be, in > itself, illogical and quite stilted. Sure, deluded people exist, but > organizations who are in control of such things have a responsibility to > not abuse their authority. > >
Yes - i am only speculating, but there are lawyers out there who have brought up the possible charge. I spoke with one of them recently. > >>It's long established law that conspiracy to commit genocide, ethnic > cleansing and to violate the human rights of groups of people is a > crime. Creating the theoretical framework for genocide is also a crime > as was evidenced by the conviction of Julius Streicher who authored > Daily Stormer's predescessor Der Sturmer. > >>It's Cloudflare and Registrars protecting themselves from being > complicit in human rights crimes. > >>And you know what. I don't blame them. I wouldn't piss on Andrew Anglin > if he was on fire. > > > > Sorry, but you are not even hundreds of miles away from being correct on > this. To label DNS service, which is essentially monopoly, as > supporting "genocide" is about 3-4 leaps of logic, far too much to work. > A few nuts spouting nonsense is far, very far, from "conspiracy to > commit genocide". Merely providing necessary net services to them, just > as is done for thousands of sites, cannot possibly be described that > way. Maybe you just have no respect for the concept of "Free Speech". > > Jim Bell > > I am concerned about the market monopoly of DNS service ...but > > > This is not about speech. It is about people conspiring to commit genocide, ethnic cleansing and to remove peoples human rights. I am quoting law used in Neuremburg. ...The same law that was used to convict Julius Streicher. You cannot simultaneously enguage in free speech and a conspiracy to commit genocide. One is permitted, one is a crime. ...Unless you want to redefine free speech to include criminal conspiracy. We can oppose monopolies like DNS TLD without defending conspiracy to commit genocide.
