On 09/13/2017 12:07 PM, Marina Brown quoted Jim Bell:
> Sorry, but you are not even hundreds of miles away from being correct on > this. To label DNS service, which is essentially monopoly, as > supporting "genocide" is about 3-4 leaps of logic, far too much to work. > A few nuts spouting nonsense is far, very far, from "conspiracy to > commit genocide". Merely providing necessary net services to them, just > as is done for thousands of sites, cannot possibly be described that > way. Cmon Jim! You know better! That wing ding at the beginning of the Persian Gulf Invasion? An Annapolis Ham Packet bbs that handled an anti-war message? Remember? The first node IS responsible for content, barring federal intervention/regulation such as declaring a mode of operation or organization, a "Common Carrier". DNSes have NO SUCH IMMUNITY. Rr > On 09/13/2017 02:30 PM, jim bell wrote: >> On Wednesday, September 13, 2017, 10:50:40 AM PDT, Marina Brown >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> On 09/13/2017 07:04 AM, John Young wrote: >> >>> The Terrifying Power of Internet Censors >>> >>> >> https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/13/opinion/cloudflare-daily-stormer-charlottesville.html >>> >>> Terrifying! >>> >>> >>> >>> I have a feeling that Internet Registrars and Cloudflare are doing this >> for their own legal protection. >> >> >> >> I have a feeling that you are inventing reasoning that would be, in >> itself, illogical and quite stilted. Sure, deluded people exist, but >> organizations who are in control of such things have a responsibility to >> not abuse their authority. >> >> > Yes - i am only speculating, but there are lawyers out there who have > brought up the possible charge. I spoke with one of them recently. > >>> It's long established law that conspiracy to commit genocide, ethnic >> cleansing and to violate the human rights of groups of people is a >> crime. Creating the theoretical framework for genocide is also a crime >> as was evidenced by the conviction of Julius Streicher who authored >> Daily Stormer's predescessor Der Sturmer. >> >>> It's Cloudflare and Registrars protecting themselves from being >> complicit in human rights crimes. >> >>> And you know what. I don't blame them. I wouldn't piss on Andrew Anglin >> if he was on fire. >> >> >> >> Sorry, but you are not even hundreds of miles away from being correct on >> this. To label DNS service, which is essentially monopoly, as >> supporting "genocide" is about 3-4 leaps of logic, far too much to work. >> A few nuts spouting nonsense is far, very far, from "conspiracy to >> commit genocide". Merely providing necessary net services to them, just >> as is done for thousands of sites, cannot possibly be described that >> way. Maybe you just have no respect for the concept of "Free Speech". >> >> Jim Bell >> >> > I am concerned about the market monopoly of DNS service ...but > >> >> > This is not about speech. It is about people conspiring to commit > genocide, ethnic cleansing and to remove peoples human rights. > > I am quoting law used in Neuremburg. ...The same law that was used to > convict Julius Streicher. > > You cannot simultaneously enguage in free speech and a conspiracy to > commit genocide. One is permitted, one is a crime. > > ...Unless you want to redefine free speech to include criminal conspiracy. > > We can oppose monopolies like DNS TLD without defending conspiracy to > commit genocide.
