On Mon, 6 Aug 2018 12:30:50 -0700 Mirimir <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 08/06/2018 12:07 PM, juan wrote: > > On Mon, 6 Aug 2018 09:14:11 -0700 > > Mirimir <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> That's a good point about bettors needing good enough anonymity to avoid > >> arrest. Even so, evidence from .onion marketplaces and child porn forums > >> suggests that Tor is good enough for users. > > > > > > what evidence are you talking about > > The apparent lack of user prosecutions not explained by .onion > compromises. Last year, I researched the issue carefully, and I didn't > find any.[0] But maybe I missed something. Can you point to examples? No, I don't have access to the records of the american stasi, interpol and the like. And of course I don't assume that using the nsa search engine gives any trustable information. Plus, your 'legal' system is explicitly based on secret laws and secret procedures, so even if there was some real information out there, you can't access it. > > wow - so did you get a bonus from the pentagon? Is that why you started > > posting pentagon propandad in this list again? > > Don't I wish ;) you seem to have some trouble understanding what 'evidence' means. I'll give you one example. The stuff you post is evidence that you are a tor propagandist. That's REAL evidence. Fact : you are an 'anonymous' poster who posts tor propaganda. (And that EVIDENCE is a good starting point to guess that you are paid to do so.) > > so why do you keep parroting pentagon propaganda if you know how it > > works? > > So can you point to counterexamples? counterexamples of what? Again why do you parrot pentagon propaganda if you are aware of the secret laws that your legal system is based on? That has fuck to do with any counterexample. > And if we can't trust _anything_ findable on the Internet, then I guess > we're just screwed ;) yes - at any rate it should be obvious that if you think you are going to get 'military grade' 'anonimity' 'good enough' to kill trump and cronies, courtesy of the pentagon, then you are, at the very best, completely delusional. > But seriously, if Tor is just Americunt honeypot, what do _you_ use for > anonymity? whatever I use, or don't use, has exactly FUCK to do with any half sensible analysis of the US military tor network. So why do you even ask? And whatever I use, or don't, you think I would comment on it here? so now, let's look at some REAL EVIDENCE regarding the US military network tor. 1) people using it end up in jail, in jail for life, or suicided in a jail in thailand. 2) none of the non-criminal operations like selling drugs or distributing so called 'child porn' last more than a year, at best. Maybe the NSA can find them in a month, a week or a day, but if they found them too quickly they would reveal their game. 3) tor has had countless 'bugs' but never a 'backdoor' 4) even supreme scum syverson TELLS YOU that tor doesnt work https://www.ohmygodel.com/publications/usersrouted-ccs13.pdf and that deals with ordinary users, not even 'hidden' aka revealed services. 5) backbone surveillance has been documented for a long while https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Room_641A and you do NOT KNOW what their systems for traffic analysis look like and can do. But there are some hints https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NarusInsight 5) here's what the US military use tor for http://www.monitor.upeace.org/innerpg.cfm?id_article=816 "the Arab Spring: An Interview with Jacob Appelbaum" arab spring = US military coup of course. and you do know what happened to agent applebaum when he deviated somewhat from the US military party line. See? What happened to appelbaum is more FUCKING EVIDENCE about the nature of the people running tor. 6) in the past you could find links on reddit to .onion sites that kinda looked 'uncensored'. Those sites do not exist anymore. But feel free to prove me wrong and POST EVIDENCE, that is, links to content that the 'authorities' would like to remove but can't. I might add some more evidence later.
