-------- Original message --------From: juan <[email protected]> Date: 8/29/18
12:30 PM (GMT-08:00) To: [email protected] Subject: Re: I am a
criminal
On Wed, 29 Aug 2018 12:06:39 -0700
Razer <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Ps. You can buy a 12ga flare gun(coastal use rated) for $69.95 at any marine
> supply store in the US, no questions asked. It will take out anything living,
> or in any way flammable, so why bother printing a gun?
yeah but now, with plastic guns, the population will have the means to
overthrow the government, exactly like jefferson and washington planned it.
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I wasn't really suggesting using guns to overthow the government. You might
like this explanation of why.
Randazza at the libertarian legalwonkblog popehat:
"In 1776, when the height of military technology was a musket and a cannon,
both of which you could make by melting down church bells, there might have
been something to it. When the contest was little more than numbers of guns you
could drag through the woods, and how to play the weather, the government
probably did need to worry a bit about insurrection – and that might have kept
them a bit more honest.
However, the first time someone tried that kind of thing, it didn't work out so
well. In fact, Shays' Rebellion just led to Constitutional tweaks to make the
federal government that much stronger. The Civil War led to even more, with
harsher consequences.
If 13 states, with the assistance of at least one superpower, didn't manage to
get their way through armed insurrection, what the hell makes anyone think that
armed insurgency is going to preserve our right to … whatever … not have
affordable health care, or to coffee cups that say "Happy Birthday Jesus" on
them?
Ok, fine… lets come up with a cause worth fighting for. Lets say that Obama
refuses to step down in 2016, and he not only declares himself
dictator-for-life, but he also starts dressing like Ghadaffi, decrees that the
national religion shall be Islam, the national language will be Klingon, there
will be an efficient rail network in the United States, the writ of Prima
Noctae is now in effect, and there shall be martial law to enforce all of the
above, as well as any other laws that the President invents, on a daily basis.
We managed to preserve our right to keep military grade rifles and machine
guns, so we all muster down on the Town Common with our guns. We tried voting.
We tried protesting. This is a reasonable time to start with the armed
insurrection stuff.
So, you, me, all our neighbors, hell our entire city builds a perimeter around
it. We fill sandbags, we all have ammunition, we all have food, water,
supplies, and most importantly, we are all unified and in complete solidarity.
And we stand there, resisting whatever it is the government was going to do to
us.
And then they fly over with one jet, dropping one FAE bomb, and roll in with
three tanks, and in about 12 hours, our "resistance" is reduced to a few
smoking holes. The Tree of Liberty will get its manure all right, but it will
be the manure that you shat out as you ran for cover, as long range artillery
rains down on our town, as we get carpet bombed from 35,000 feet, and as the
sky goes black with drones and cruise missiles.
We're screwed.
So… if the 2nd Amendment's "right to revolution" implication is real, both
practically and legally, it must also include a right to possess tanks, jets,
rocket launchers, etc. Your puny AK-47 is useless. So, we need to have at least
some of our volunteer resistance show up with Stinger missiles, some
anti-aircraft batteries, maybe a submarine or two?
Oh, you can't afford that?
That's ok, we have some patriotic citizens who can.
Who? The same billionaires who already own the government, that's who. So what
do they want to "resist?" I could only see them wanting to resist checks on
their own power. So, if the Second Amendment implies a right to resist the
government, then that would mean that we need our billionaire friends to start
stockpiling these weapons now. We need a Koch brothers airfield with a few
fighters and bombers, and Adelson should have a fleet of tanks somewhere, and I
guess that George Soros would bring his collection of nuke-armed submarines up
to date, right?
So lets drop the crazy scenario of Obama-cum-Ghadaffi, and just think about
something we were really likely to see upset us. Do you think for a moment that
you, living in some apartment in Salt Lake City, or a house in Wyoming, or a
condo in Boca Raton, would be ready to go to war with the Federal Government
over the same shit that would get the Koch Brothers to fuel up their private
stock of A10 Warthogs? Really?
Because you know what the billionaires want the government to stop doing? They
want it to get out of the way of their becoming trillionaires. If you think
that the Second Amendment means what the Supreme Court said in Heller, and you
believe that is a good thing, because it gives you the ability to resist the
government, you might want to play out the long game in your head. The long
game here is this interpretation leads to private armies, raised by limitless
wealth, all of which looks at our quaint little republican form of government
as nothing more than a paper justification to have a flag waving over a few
national parks."
In full
https://www.popehat.com/2015/12/07/you-are-not-going-to-resist-the-government-with-your-guns/
