On Thu, Feb 28, 2019 at 5:17 PM jim bell <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Thursday, February 28, 2019, 12:16:48 PM PST, Punk <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Thu, 28 Feb 2019 09:15:51 +1000
> [email protected] wrote:
>
> >> If you are in the city, everything is on CCTV.  But you are not going to
> >> drop something valuable in the middle of the city.
>
>  >   Yet the majority of customers live in the city. Also, surveillance in 
> the city means surveillance when you enter and leave the city.
>
> Depends very much on the city.  In the big (relatively) city closest to me, 
> Portland Oregon, there are many hundreds of streets that 'leave the city'.  
> Sure, they could all be camera'd, but what good would that do?  The pictures 
> could be stored, and would be, but how could it be known if any specific 
> frame represents a "useful" image?
>
> Eventually, some kind of AI could be developed, but I doubt whether this 
> would find most activities which would be useful to identify.  Placing or 
> retrieving a dead-drop would be one of the most undetectable events that 
> could occur:   Drive to a block, get out, walk around in a large grassy area, 
> bend over, pick up something, walk away, drive away.  How much video of this 
> would surveillance have to catch to determine that the person surveilled was 
> doing something suspicious...particularly if they didn't already know 
> something was going on.
>
> This reminds me that 23 years ago, I first learned about "3M Louvered Film",  
>  
> https://www.3m.com/3M/en_US/industrial-manufacturing-us/display-enhancement-and-protection-films-industrial-manufacturing/light-control-films/
>      a plastic sheet product that prevents viewing at angles greater than a 
> pre-defined amount.  It's now generically available.   
> https://www.shinetsu.info/vc_film
>
> This stuff could be placed over a car's license plate, so that a camera well 
> above (or to the side, or both) couldn't read the plate.
> To be sure, that's not necessarily an unmixed blessing.  While it effectively 
> makes a car look like it doesn't have a (readable) license plate, that in 
> itself might be considered suspicious.
>
> A few weeks ago, I realized that cemeteries would be excellent locations for 
> placing dead-drops.  (no pun intended, but I'll take what I can get !).  
> There are few people who visit cemeteries, but the idea of a person visiting 
> a grave is very plausible.  And, some amount of 'searching' is to be 
> expected, so it doesn't look suspicious.  Further, there are plenty of 
> gravestones which can be used as markers for the placement and retrieval of 
> those dead-drops, even more precisely than WAAS GPS or L1+L5 GPS.
>
> The war continues.
>
>                          Jim Bell

Riffing a bit on the cemeteries: Pick a famous grave near you - some
recently deceased celebrity, say Jim Morrison (as opposed to an
ancient celebrity, such as US Grant) that attracts a lot of people.

And, FWIW, there's a fair amount of tradecraft shown in The Americans,
a pretty good TV series set in the '80s.

Kurt

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