And I got this third one too.
On Thu, Jan 09, 2020 at 10:10:23PM +0000, jim bell wrote: > [twice in the last couple of hours I sent this, both times getting a quick > confirmation as was programmed weeks, yet NOT actually getting a return from > from the list itself. I will shorten the quote below to ensure that this > isn't the problem.] > On Thursday, January 9, 2020, 01:19:46 PM PST, jim bell > <jdb10...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > [I am resending this, because while I received a confirmation from the CP > list a few seconds after I sent it, nevertheless after nearly 40 minutes > after this, I have not yet received the posting as would have been sent by > the list.] > On Thursday, January 9, 2020, 12:40:40 PM PST, jim bell > <jdb10...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > My Assassination Politics https://cryptome.org/ap.htm proposal has been > extensively mistreated and unfairly opposed by people, even early on the > Cypherpunks list, based on very false and especially incomplete analyses. > Specifically, people write as if you can consider AP 'good' based only on it, > rather than in comparison with what it will certainly replace. And yes, many > people have had the opportunity, for about 25 years now, to do these > comparisons. They have utterly failed to do that. Economists have a term > called "opportunity cost", the costs of NOT choosing a particular course of > action. Making a decision requires an analysis of not merely choosing, but > also choosing NOT, to do something. > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opportunity_cost > I just read the following, from Reddit. It is a seemingly small, but > virtually perfect, example of what happens when you DON'T choose to implement > my Assassination Politics system. > https://www.reddit.com/r/Libertarian/comments/em8clw/brooklyn_public_defender_scott_hechinger_lays_out/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share > > I will quote all of this below, the relevant message, in case it disappears. > But I will say that in an AP world this kind of event could not occur. Why > do I say that? In an AP world, this crooked detective wouldn't expect to be > protected by an equally-crooked judge. In an AP world, this crooked > detective would be 'donated to death', very quickly, and there would be > nothing at all that anybody could do to stop this. And if a crooked judge > tried to help him get away with this amazing perjury, that judge too would be > 'donated to death', just as quickly. And anyone who supported him, or them. > Mostly, the deterrent value of AP would make such actions unthinkable, and > impossible in practice. > One reason that my AP idea should be considered so good is that it must be > judged in comparison with the existing world, all the bad things like this. > Anybody who criticizes AP needs to explain why it would somehow be worse than > today's amazing world. > When I do a Google-search for things like ' "Assassination Politics" "bell" ' > I occasionally read comments about how 'Bell has not recanted', or 'Bell > still believes in his AP idea'. As if, they are somehow shocked to discover > that I really still support my AP idea. Why should I recant? Why should I > abandon my discovery/invention? Does our world still have injustice, in the > way this current Reddit item describes? Does our world still have > militaries, taxation to fund them, wars, and nuclear weapons? Does anybody > (else) have a credible idea to solve these problems? > I will recant AP when, and only when, the world figures out a way to solve > ALL of its problems that AP would otherwise solve. Which will NEVER occur. > Jim Bell > > > ----------------------------- From that cite shown above: > ----------------------------- > "I represented the man who this ex-NYPD detective lied into a violent felony > indictment. Michael Bergman completely fabricated a fake crime out of spite. > If convicted, would’ve faced minimum 3.5 years in prison. Max 15. Today, the > liar only got probation. > > "I remember first meeting Mr. Barbosa. In interview cells attached to the > cage behind the arraignment courtroom in Brooklyn criminal court. Like > everyone I represent I don’t get to choose. I just happened to be working > that day, & a file with his name & charges was handed to me. > > "The charges were serious. Detective Bergman claimed that after stopping Mr. > Barbosa’s car, he accelerated backwards at a high rate of speed, then turned > the car toward the Detective. Was right in between headlines. And slammed on > gas. Bergman dove out of the way to save his life. > > "Mr. Barbosa was in a world of trouble. Charged w/ attempted assault in first > degree. A Class C violent felony. A brazen act of violence. I wondered what > he was thinking. What motivated this? I walked thru the door into the jail > directly behind the “In God We Trust” sign in court. > > I called his name & he walked in. Tired. Not feeling well. Shaking his head. > I told him his charges. And he forcefully denied it. “Didn’t happen. These > cops have been harassing me for months. I was parked. They pulled up. I drove > off. That was it.” I pressed him more. > > “Why on earth would they make something like this up?” I asked. Cops lie all > the time. To justify bad stops & frisks, excessive use of force. Sometimes > they plant evidence. Big lies. Small lies. Here: there was no motivation. He > wasn’t injured. They didn’t find anything on him. > > “I honesty don’t know. They don’t like me, but saying I did this?” He trailed > off. Put head down. He was really upset. I was having a hard time still > believing him. “So you just pulled out? Didn’t accidentally almost hit him?” > He shook his head no. “I’ll look for video,” I said. > > A reaction to the idea of video surveillance can sometimes be a tell. If not > so enthusiastic, it’s likely the video won’t be helpful. But he jumped up: > > “There’s video?!” > > “I don’t know. I’ll definitely be looking for it.” > > [snip] > > [end of long quote from Reddit: > https://www.reddit.com/r/Libertarian/comments/em8clw/brooklyn_public_defender_scott_hechinger_lays_out/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share > ] >
