Much of the judicial and prosecutorial corruption could be addressed by private criminal prosecutions.
On Fri, Jan 10, 2020, 12:38 AM jim bell <jdb10...@yahoo.com> wrote: > My comments inline: > > On Thursday, January 9, 2020, 02:38:17 PM PST, \0xDynamite < > dreamingforw...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> I will recant AP when, and only when, the world figures out a way to > solve > >> ALL of its problems that AP would otherwise solve. Which will NEVER > occur. > > > >But you are possibly missing out on a problem AP *would* cause: mob > slander of an innocent man. > > You must not be thinking very hard. First, I will point out that your > comment is ambiguous: WHICH "innocent man"? An, why would AP CAUSE that > slander? > > If we assume you are talking about the innocent person described in the > Reddit message I quoted, you seem to forget that he was given "mob slander" > due to a corrupt and lying detective, not due to some not-yet-existent AP > system. And that lying detective knew he was enabled by a crooked judge, > who had never given any policement worse than probation. And if an AP > system existed, that detective would have certainly been 'donated to > death'. > So, why are you now saying that AP would CAUSE that slander? Slightly > more accurately, you might speculate that an AP system would not > necessarily PREVENT that slander. > > And, I notice that you are carefully avoided quoting the large majority of > my original post (and I'm not referring to my quote of the Reddit posting), > which would easily disprove what you are saying. I addressed these issues; > you edited those points out. Should I accuse you of dishonesty for > removing them? I will re-post that material I wrote, below. > > > Your AP has to be *perfectly* accurate of its indictments. How will > you do this without re-inventing "the > System"? > > I would ask you to check all the discussion in the 1995 CP archives, BUT > SOME CORRUPT PEOPLE TAMPERED WITH THE ARCHIVES!!! > > The reality is that after a couple of years post-AP, there will be a > series of VOLUNTARY courts implemented, to resolve these disputes. They > will have juries, and juries will do what juries have done best, find > facts. I could go on, but you would ignore it. > > > > > >That's why I propose the Headline Target technique: more likely to > get results, and more-or-less harmless if wrong. > > >marxos > > It looks to me like you just wanted to flog YOUR idea, so you chose to > criticize MY idea, but to disguise your dishonesty you deleted a key part > of my comment to make it look like you made a point, and make it look like > I omitted a point. Stop that. > > Jim Bell > > > > --------------- the following is what I, Jim Bell, originally posted, > minus the Reddit posting quoted -------------------- > > My Assassination Politics https://cryptome.org/ap.htm proposal has > been extensively mistreated and unfairly opposed by people, even early on > the Cypherpunks list, based on very false and especially incomplete > analyses. Specifically, people write as if you can consider AP 'good' > based only on it, rather than in comparison with what it will certainly > replace. And yes, many people have had the opportunity, for about 25 years > now, to do these comparisons. They have utterly failed to do that. > > Economists have a term called "opportunity cost", the costs of NOT > choosing a particular course of action. Making a decision requires an > analysis of not merely choosing, but also choosing NOT, to do something. > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opportunity_cost > > I just read the following, from Reddit. It is a seemingly small, but > virtually perfect, example of what happens when you DON'T choose to > implement my Assassination Politics system. > > r/Libertarian - Brooklyn Public Defender Scott Hechinger lays out the > story of his client, facing 15 years for a cop's lie. Fortunately there was > video. Yesterday the cop got probation from Justice Chun, who has never > sentenced a cop to anything else > <https://www.reddit.com/r/Libertarian/comments/em8clw/brooklyn_public_defender_scott_hechinger_lays_out/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share> > > r/Libertarian - Brooklyn Public Defender Scott Hechinger lays out the st... > > 1,474 votes and 144 comments so far on Reddit > > <https://www.reddit.com/r/Libertarian/comments/em8clw/brooklyn_public_defender_scott_hechinger_lays_out/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share> > > > > I will quote all of this below, the relevant message, in case it disappears. > But I will say that in an AP world this kind of event could not occur. Why > do I say that? In an AP world, this crooked detective wouldn't expect to be > protected by an equally-crooked judge. In an AP world, this crooked > detective would be 'donated to death', very quickly, and there would be > nothing at all that anybody could do to stop this. And if a crooked judge > tried to help him get away with this amazing perjury, that judge too would be > 'donated to death', just as quickly. And anyone who supported him, or them. > Mostly, the deterrent value of AP would make such actions unthinkable, and > impossible in practice. > > > One reason that my AP idea should be considered so good is that it must be > judged in comparison with the existing world, all the bad things like this. > Anybody who criticizes AP needs to explain why it would somehow be worse than > today's amazing world. > > > When I do a Google-search for things like ' "Assassination Politics" "bell" ' > I occasionally read comments about how 'Bell has not recanted', or 'Bell > still believes in his AP idea'. As if, they are somehow shocked to discover > that I really still support my AP idea. Why should I recant? Why should I > abandon my discovery/invention? Does our world still have injustice, in the > way this current Reddit item describes? Does our world still have > militaries, taxation to fund them, wars, and nuclear weapons? Does anybody > (else) have a credible idea to solve these problems? > > > I will recant AP when, and only when, the world figures out a way to solve > ALL of its problems that AP would otherwise solve. Which will NEVER occur. > > > Jim Bell > > > > >
