On 10/15/20, Zenaan Harkness <[email protected]> wrote: > On Fri, Oct 16, 2020 at 09:04:50AM +1000, [email protected] wrote: >> On 2020-10-16 05:43, Punk-BatSoup-Stasi 2.0 wrote: >> > On Thu, 15 Oct 2020 13:40:35 -0400 >> > Robert Hettinga <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> >> Part 2. Two more to go... >> >> >> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=n4qonsvSgAg&app=desktop >> >> >> > >> > So speaking of NSA shills, that's exactly the sort of thing I would >> > expect from one. The promotin of the idea that 'crypto' is a weapon >> > against tyranny when in practice it serves the tyrants a lot more than >> > it serves their victims. >> > >> > Cryptography is what allows big brother to control all of their big >> > brother backdoored hardware, for instance. >> >> Crypto is a munition. You want to deny us weapons, but do not want the >> government denied weapons. > > I have to disagree, and the noise of Juan's anger is perhaps what makes it > sometimes difficult to hear him, but it seems his position is that "all tech > that gets created, gets used -more- by the fascist MIC regime dominating us > all" and the obvious conclusion from this apparently correct observation is > "so why the hell would you create more, or promote, any such tech?" > > This argument (if I've paraphrased Juan correctly) is quite compelling - > it's not obviously wrong. > > So we are presented with a dilemma - you could say Juan takes a strong > position on one side of that dilemma, but that's not the problem here (in > fact, Juan's strong position helps us to see more clearly, the very dilemma > we are faced with). > > The problem is not Juan's position on this dilemma, the problem is in fact > the dilemma itself.
The video makes it pretty clear that cypherpunks were holding the role of addressing that dilemma, right inside technology.
