On 10/17/23, ZmnSCPxj via bitcoin-dev <[email protected]> wrote: > Good morning Antoine et al., > > Let me try to rephrase the core of the attack. > > There exists these nodes on the LN (letters `A`, `B`, and `C` are nodes, > `==` are channels): > > A ===== B ===== C > > `A` routes `A->B->C`. > > The timelocks, for example, could be: > > A->B timeelock = 144 > B->C timelock = 100 > > The above satisfies the LN BOLT requirements, as long as `B` has a > `cltv_expiry_delta` of 44 or lower. > > After `B` forwards the HTLC `B->C`, C suddenly goes offline, and all the > signed transactions --- commitment transaction and HTLC-timeout transactions > --- are "stuck" at the feerate at the time. > > At block height 100, `B` notices the `B->C` HTLC timelock is expired without > `C` having claimed it, so `B` forces the `B====C` channel onchain. > However, onchain feerates have risen and the commitment transaction and > HTLC-timeout transaction do not confirm. > > In the mean time, `A` is still online with `B` and updates the onchain fees > of the `A====B` channel pre-signed transactions (commitment tx and > HTLC-timeout tx) to the latest. > > At block height 144, `B` is still not able to claim the `A->B` HTLC, so `A` > drops the `A====B` channel onchain. > As the fees are up-to-date, this confirms immediately and `A` is able to > recover the HTLC funds. > However, the feerates of the `B====C` pre-signed transactions remain at the > old, uncompetitive feerates. > > At this point, `C` broadcasts an HTLC-success transaction with high feerates > that CPFPs the commitment tx. > However, it replaces the HTLC-timeout transaction, which is at the old, low > feerate. > `C` is thus able to get the value of the HTLC, but `B` is now no longer able > to use the knowledge of the preimage, as its own incoming HTLC was already > confirmed as claimed by `A`. > > Is the above restatement accurate? > > ---- > > Let me also explain to non-Lightning experts why HTLC-timeout is presigned > in this case and why `B` cannot feebump it. > > In the Poon-Dryja mechanism, the HTLCs are "infected" by the Poon-Dryja > penalty case, and are not plain HTLCs. > > A plain HTLC offerred by `B` to `C` would look like this: > > (B && OP_CLTV) || (C && OP_HASH160) > > However, on the commitment transaction held by `B`, it would be infected by > the penalty case in this way: > > (B && C && OP_CLTV) || (C && OP_HASH160) || (C && revocation) > > There are two changes: > > * The addition of a revocation branch `C && revocation`. > * The branch claimable by `B` in the "plain" HTLC (`B && OP_CLTV`) also > includes `C`. > > These are necessary in case `B` tries to cheat and this HTLC is on an old, > revoked transaction. > If the revoked transaction is *really* old, the `OP_CLTV` would already > impose a timelock far in the past. > This means that a plain `B && OP_CLTV` branch can be claimed by `B` if it > retained this very old revoked transaction. > > To prevent that, `C` is added to the `B && OP_CLTV` branch. > We also introduce an HTLC-timeout transaction, which spends the `B && C && > OP_CLTV` branch, and outputs to: > > (B && OP_CSV) || (C && revocation) > > Thus, even if `B` held onto a very old revoked commitment transaction and > attempts to spend the timelock branch (because the `OP_CLTV` is for an old > blockheight), it still has to contend with a new output with a *relative* > timelock. > > Unfortunately, this means that the HTLC-timeout transaction is pre-signed, > and has a specific feerate. > In order to change the feerate, both `B` and `C` have to agree to re-sign > the HTLC-timeout transaction at the higher feerate. > > However, the HTLC-success transaction in this case spends the plain `(C && > OP_HASH160)` branch, which only involves `C`. > This allows `C` to feebump the HTLC-success transaction arbitrarily even if > `B` does not cooperate. > > While anchor outputs can be added to the HTLC-timeout transaction as well, > `C` has a greater advantage here due to being able to RBF the HTLC-timeout > out of the way (1 transaction), while `B` has to get both HTLC-timeout and a > CPFP-RBF of the anchor output of the HTLC-timeout transaction (2 > transactions). > `C` thus requires a smaller fee to achieve a particular feerate due to > having to push a smaller number of bytes compared to `B`. > > Regards, > ZmnSCPxj > _______________________________________________ > bitcoin-dev mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev >
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