On 10/17/23, Antoine Riard via bitcoin-dev <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Zeeman, > >> At block height 100, `B` notices the `B->C` HTLC timelock is expired > without `C` having claimed it, so `B` forces the `B====C` channel onchain. >> However, onchain feerates have risen and the commitment transaction and > HTLC-timeout transaction do not confirm. > > This is not that the HTLC-timeout does not confirm. It is replaced in > cycles by C's HTLC-preimage which is still valid after `B->C` HTLC timelock > has expired. And this HTLC-preimage is subsequently replaced itself. > > See the test here: > https://github.com/ariard/bitcoin/commit/19d61fa8cf22a5050b51c4005603f43d72f1efcf > >> At block height 144, `B` is still not able to claim the `A->B` HTLC, so > `A` drops the `A====B` channel onchain. >> As the fees are up-to-date, this confirms immediately and `A` is able to > recover the HTLC funds. >> However, the feerates of the `B====C` pre-signed transactions remain at > the old, uncompetitive feerates. > > This is correct that A tries to recover the HTLC funds on the `A===B` > channel. > > However, there is no need to consider the fee rates nor mempool congestion > as the exploit lays on the replacement mechanism itself (in simple > scenario). > >> At this point, `C` broadcasts an HTLC-success transaction with high > feerates that CPFPs the commitment tx. >> However, it replaces the HTLC-timeout transaction, which is at the old, > low feerate. >> `C` is thus able to get the value of the HTLC, but `B` is now no longer > able to use the knowledge of the preimage, as its own incoming HTLC was > already confirmed as claimed by `A`. > > This is correct that `C` broadcasts an HTLC-success transaction at block > height 144. > > However `C` broadcasts this high feerate transaction at _every block_ > between blocks 100 and 144 to replace B's HTLC-timeout transaction. > >> Let me also explain to non-Lightning experts why HTLC-timeout is > presigned in this case and why `B` cannot feebump it. > > Note `B` can feebump the HTLC-timeout for anchor output channels thanks to > sighash_single | anyonecanpay on C's signature. > > Le mar. 17 oct. 2023 à 11:34, ZmnSCPxj <[email protected]> a écrit : > >> Good morning Antoine et al., >> >> Let me try to rephrase the core of the attack. >> >> There exists these nodes on the LN (letters `A`, `B`, and `C` are nodes, >> `==` are channels): >> >> A ===== B ===== C >> >> `A` routes `A->B->C`. >> >> The timelocks, for example, could be: >> >> A->B timeelock = 144 >> B->C timelock = 100 >> >> The above satisfies the LN BOLT requirements, as long as `B` has a >> `cltv_expiry_delta` of 44 or lower. >> >> After `B` forwards the HTLC `B->C`, C suddenly goes offline, and all the >> signed transactions --- commitment transaction and HTLC-timeout >> transactions --- are "stuck" at the feerate at the time. >> >> At block height 100, `B` notices the `B->C` HTLC timelock is expired >> without `C` having claimed it, so `B` forces the `B====C` channel >> onchain. >> However, onchain feerates have risen and the commitment transaction and >> HTLC-timeout transaction do not confirm. >> >> In the mean time, `A` is still online with `B` and updates the onchain >> fees of the `A====B` channel pre-signed transactions (commitment tx and >> HTLC-timeout tx) to the latest. >> >> At block height 144, `B` is still not able to claim the `A->B` HTLC, so >> `A` drops the `A====B` channel onchain. >> As the fees are up-to-date, this confirms immediately and `A` is able to >> recover the HTLC funds. >> However, the feerates of the `B====C` pre-signed transactions remain at >> the old, uncompetitive feerates. >> >> At this point, `C` broadcasts an HTLC-success transaction with high >> feerates that CPFPs the commitment tx. >> However, it replaces the HTLC-timeout transaction, which is at the old, >> low feerate. >> `C` is thus able to get the value of the HTLC, but `B` is now no longer >> able to use the knowledge of the preimage, as its own incoming HTLC was >> already confirmed as claimed by `A`. >> >> Is the above restatement accurate? >> >> ---- >> >> Let me also explain to non-Lightning experts why HTLC-timeout is >> presigned >> in this case and why `B` cannot feebump it. >> >> In the Poon-Dryja mechanism, the HTLCs are "infected" by the Poon-Dryja >> penalty case, and are not plain HTLCs. >> >> A plain HTLC offerred by `B` to `C` would look like this: >> >> (B && OP_CLTV) || (C && OP_HASH160) >> >> However, on the commitment transaction held by `B`, it would be infected >> by the penalty case in this way: >> >> (B && C && OP_CLTV) || (C && OP_HASH160) || (C && revocation) >> >> There are two changes: >> >> * The addition of a revocation branch `C && revocation`. >> * The branch claimable by `B` in the "plain" HTLC (`B && OP_CLTV`) also >> includes `C`. >> >> These are necessary in case `B` tries to cheat and this HTLC is on an >> old, >> revoked transaction. >> If the revoked transaction is *really* old, the `OP_CLTV` would already >> impose a timelock far in the past. >> This means that a plain `B && OP_CLTV` branch can be claimed by `B` if it >> retained this very old revoked transaction. >> >> To prevent that, `C` is added to the `B && OP_CLTV` branch. >> We also introduce an HTLC-timeout transaction, which spends the `B && C >> && >> OP_CLTV` branch, and outputs to: >> >> (B && OP_CSV) || (C && revocation) >> >> Thus, even if `B` held onto a very old revoked commitment transaction and >> attempts to spend the timelock branch (because the `OP_CLTV` is for an >> old >> blockheight), it still has to contend with a new output with a *relative* >> timelock. >> >> Unfortunately, this means that the HTLC-timeout transaction is >> pre-signed, >> and has a specific feerate. >> In order to change the feerate, both `B` and `C` have to agree to re-sign >> the HTLC-timeout transaction at the higher feerate. >> >> However, the HTLC-success transaction in this case spends the plain `(C >> && >> OP_HASH160)` branch, which only involves `C`. >> This allows `C` to feebump the HTLC-success transaction arbitrarily even >> if `B` does not cooperate. >> >> While anchor outputs can be added to the HTLC-timeout transaction as >> well, >> `C` has a greater advantage here due to being able to RBF the >> HTLC-timeout >> out of the way (1 transaction), while `B` has to get both HTLC-timeout >> and >> a CPFP-RBF of the anchor output of the HTLC-timeout transaction (2 >> transactions). >> `C` thus requires a smaller fee to achieve a particular feerate due to >> having to push a smaller number of bytes compared to `B`. >> >> Regards, >> ZmnSCPxj >> >
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