On Thu, Nov 14, 2002 at 11:13:06AM -0500, Mike Diehl wrote:
> Dubbya has only been in office about a year and a half, and in that time, he 
> has destroyed Freedom in this country?  I don't think so.  I'm still able to 
> practice my religion freely. 

   How wonderful for you. Many of us sincerely wish we could practice our
religion freely as well. 


> I can criticize my government and stay out of 
> prison.

   Can you? As long as you do it at home or in your local bar, I suppose. Try
taking it out on the street and getting in their face.

>  I don't have soldiers living with/watching me.

   Plenty of pigs watching a lot of us. The fedzis are everywhere these
days. Perhaps you've heard about them infiltrating church groups, demanding the
reading lists from libraries, etc. How do you know they haven't bugged your
house? Your computer? Got Carnivore at your ISP? 


>  Saddam is just as 
> bad as most dictators, but let's not confuse the issue; he's still a DICTATOR!

    What do you call an unelected president?

> 
>      >    Dubbya and Asscruft have millions of people in prison for doing
>      > nothing wrong, only violating their bullshit rules in the War On Some
>      > Drugs. 
> 
> Hey, the law is posted.  You may not agree with it, but it is the law.

   Fuck that. The Nazis posted a law saying all Jews were illegal. People didn't
agree with it, "but it was the law" -- right? 

>  I 
> wouldn't have agreed with Prohibition, but I would have followed the law 
> while at the same time trying to abolish it. 

     Yup, just following orders, right? 

> Guess what, I have that 
> freedom, still.  Personall, I don't care what you do in the privacy of your 
> own home, but I won't want to drive on the same street, go to work with, or 
> have my child watched, by anyone who is high on some drug.

   You don't use any drugs yourself, of course. Never touch any alcohol or
tobacco, eh?

>  If that means 
> smoking dope keeps someone from being imployed, that's not my problem.
> 
    Yes, I keep hearing this same theme from a lot of fat-cat amerikans -- "I
don't care what the gov't does, they aren't bothering me." "I don't care if they
read my email." "I don't have anything to hide, who cares if they tap all the
phones?"


>      >They have killed thousands of innocent Afghans, and are intent
>      > on murdering hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqis just to steal
>      > their oil. This makes Dubbya a mass-murder far beyond the scale of
>      > Saddam.
> 
> Well, mass-murder is a bit strong.  I believe we are motivated by oil; not 
> arguement there. 

   So it's okay to take what belongs to someone else if your strong enough to do
it, eh? Hmmm, where do you live? Got any nice toys? How much cash do you usually
carry?


> Perhapse Dubbya is looking out for the US's, and his own? 
> best interests.  I'll bet you drive a car and like a warm home, and like that 
> electricity stuff. 

    Yup, but I'm making my own biodiesel to run my van and pickup on, and soon
will have a gasifier to produce all the heat and electricity I need from
biomass, mostly waste. But we lived for 18 years with *no* electricity and only
wood for all our heating and cooking, it's no biggy. I don't need or want a drop
of Iraqi oil.

> Well, it all NEEDS OIL!  The average American Sheep would 
> riot in the street if they couldn't drive their SUV to church on sunday.
> 
   
    You sound pretty much like one of those sheeple. I'll laugh my ass off when
the oil well goes dry. I sincerly hope a lot of those fat ass amerikans who
support the likes of Dubbya starve and freeze to death.


-- 
Harmon Seaver   
CyberShamanix
http://www.cybershamanix.com

"War is just a racket ... something that is not what it seems to the
majority of people. Only a small group knows what its about. It is
conducted for the benefit of the very few at the expense of the
masses."  --- Major General Smedley Butler, 1933

"Our overriding purpose, from the beginning through to the present
day, has been world domination - that is, to build and maintain the
capacity to coerce everybody else on the planet: nonviolently, if
possible, and violently, if necessary. But the purpose of US foreign
policy of domination is not just to make the rest of the world jump
through hoops; the purpose is to faciliate our exploitation of
resources."
- Ramsey Clark, former US Attorney General
http://www.thesunmagazine.org/bully.html

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