On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 1:52 AM, Robert Bradshaw <
[email protected]> wrote:

> On Mar 25, 2009, at 1:06 PM, Stefan Behnel wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > seeing that Cython's latest release has brought it a major step
> > forwards, I
> > wonder if it isn't time to knock at python-dev and ask for making
> > Cython an
> > integral part of CPython's standard library. This has actually been a
> > project goal since the beginning, but in an active project, it's
> > always
> > hard to find a point where something's really "ready enough" for
> > inclusion.
> >
> > My feeling is that it would be great to have Cython in the stdlib
> > rather
> > sooner than later, even if there will be further enhancements and
> > optimisations being added to Cython outside of CPython. I think the
> > core
> > non-Python parts of the language are pretty stable by now.
> >
> > Having it in would make it a lot easier for people to depend on Cython
> > being available on the user side, it would lead to a better
> > integration of
> > Cython into CPython as a general purpose Python code compiler, and
> > it would
> > allow CPython's core and stdlib developers to write their modules
> > in Cython
> > rather than C, which would make them a lot more accessible for normal
> > Python users.
> >
> > And it would certainly underline the great match that CPython and
> > Cython
> > represent.
> >
> > What do the others think?
>
> I tend to have a hard time calling things "ready enough," but I think
> that we're getting there, and I think we should at least start the
> process. (Note that inclusion in the standard Python is less
> beneficial to me personally, as I use it mostly for Sage which ships
> Cython, so I'm trying to ignore my bias here.)
>
> > Should we ask on python-dev, and then target
> > Cython 0.12 (or maybe really 0.13) as a release for the stlib?
>
>
> I think perhaps we should target 2.7/3.2, rather than a specific
> Cython release. It would be a great idea to ask of python-dev and see
> what they think is needed/desired for inclusion with the standard
> library.
>
> - Robert
>
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Right now, python is trying to gain some support for its 3.0 version and
AFAIK they want 3.0 to replace the current versions of python by mid
2010-late 2010.  So if there is any substantial work pending, on providing
better Python 3 compatibility in cython, that can be done first, and maybe
we can use that as the selling point while talking to python for integration
into their stdlib.


-- 
Regards,
Anoop S.
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