On Apr 1, 2009, at 1:15 PM, Dag Sverre Seljebotn wrote:

> Robert Bradshaw wrote:
>> On Mar 31, 2009, at 8:20 AM, Nicolas Dumazet wrote:
>>
>>> 2009/4/1 Nicolas Dumazet <[email protected]>:
>>>> I looked at ways to avoid the extra setup.py work, it seems
>>>> there's no
>>>> "easy way" here.
>>>> I thought about extending the distutils build command to build  
>>>> the c
>>>> files before the module build, but it's definitely not simple:  
>>>> if the
>>>> C files are correctly generated, one would need to register the C
>>>> extensions on the fly, once the build process has already started;
>>>> and
>>>> I'm not sure that this is possible.
>>>> And yes, if it is not possible, one would need to write a complex
>>>> build system handling the whole compilation chain.
>>>
>>> Or... the setup.py behavior could be modified:
>>> When --no-cython-compile is not provided, if the system is not  
>>> able to
>>> generate the .c, it bails out, spitting out an error, instead of
>>> trying to back out "intelligently" to the pure python implementation
>>> by itself.
>>>
>>> This would make the setup.py implementation much more simple:
>>> * If --no-cython-compile is here, there's almost nothing to do.
>>> * If it's not here, add the dependences on the C extensions, extend
>>> the build_ext distutils command to generate the C files before
>>> building the cython module, (this is actually easy to do) and...
>>> voilĂ ! Just exit with an error if you can't generate the C files,
>>> suggest to try --no-cython-compile instead.
>>
>> I'm -1 on this idea, because it complicates auto-installation of
>> packages (for example, if Cython is downloaded via a package manager,
>> especially as a dependance to something else). Regarding Scons, it's
>> a nice build system, but I'd rather not make it a dependancy for
>> Cython (especially as our build needs really aren't super  
>> complicated).
>
> About SCons, iI meant that as an apropos and strictly about support  
> for
> end users applications. I.e. it's a matter of finding and bundling an
> SCons plugin for Cython in the Tools directory, like we ship an emacs
> mode. (And perhaps pointing our users towards SCons rather than  
> investing
> too much effort in improving Cython builds using the Cython distutils
> plugin; again not for Cython itself but for Cython users.)

Ah, thanks for the clarification. Yes, this would be nice to have.

- Robert

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