Thanks so much for all the different suggestions. I will follow up on them.

And Michael, I would welcome any references from your research about the 
Sadagora Rebbe and Zionism.

Warmly,
Margo




From: Michael Kransdorff <[email protected]>
Date: Sunday, January 31, 2021 at 11:19 AM
To: Bruce Reisch <[email protected]>
Cc: "Margo J. Hittleman" <[email protected]>, CZERNOWITZ-L 
<[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [czernowitz-l] Searching for Morgenstern or Ritberg families

That so interesting.

My Kranzdorf family also made their way to Jerusalem. From my research it seems 
there was a strong zionist movement funded and supported by the Sadagora Rebbe.

Finding graves on the mount of olives is a huge challenge. There is an office 
you can call or visit at the Mount of Olives. You need their hebrew name and 
father hebrew name and approximate date of death. Often no surnames are 
provided.

Another option is to contact the Hassidic kolel. They have a large database of 
Hassidic graves on the Mount of olives.

I was able to find some of my relatives.

Kind regards

Michael



On Sat, 30 Jan 2021, 18:01 Bruce Reisch, 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Hello Margo!

First of all, greetings to a fellow Cornellian.  Glad to hear your story; my 
Reisch family also originated in Sadagora.

There are a number of potential resources for you to check, including the Anno 
Newspaper archive just mentioned by Edgar in his post earlier today.  They DO 
go back to the period before your family left Czernowitz. For direct access to 
vital records, check the indices available online at 
https://czernowitz.geneasearch.net  .  There is a pretty complete index found 
here to Czernowitz records from the mid 1800s to 1930s, and there are many 
listings for Morgensterns.  Some Sadagora records are included here as well, 
but the records that are known to exist for Sadagora are very limited.

If you find vital records of interest, click on ‘additional details’ and you 
can look them up directly on the Czernowitz Jewish records found online at
https://www.familysearch.org/search/catalog/1378569?availability=Family%20History%20Library

(To search images, you must login and have an account on the system; no fee 
involved.)

For Sadagora records, they can be browsed here (no index):
https://www.familysearch.org/search/catalog/1378647?availability=Family%20History%20Library

Good luck!
Bruce Reisch
Geneva, NY


From: 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
 on behalf of Margo J. Hittleman <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Date: Saturday, January 30, 2021 at 9:51
To: CZERNOWITZ-L 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Subject: [czernowitz-l] Searching for Morgenstern or Ritberg families
Hello everyone,

I have been lurking on this list for several years, and enjoying the posts. 
This list is a wonderful resource!

Now I am wondering if anyone can help me find more information on my family 
members who left Czernowtiz in the 1890s. Are there any good records that far 
back?

Here is what I know:

My great-great-grandfather Israel Morgenstern was born in Sadagora (about 4 
miles from Czernowtiz) in 1851.  He owned a whiskey distillery (in Czernowitz, 
I think, but perhaps in Sadagora). I’ve heard that it burned down in the late 
1880s – and was the impetus for them to move to the U.S.

His wife, my great-great-grandmother was Chaia Ridberg (or Rotberg, Rittberg, 
or Rittenberg). She was born in Toprowitz, also near Czernowitz.

Their 7 children were born there – and they lived in either Sadagora or 
Czernowitz.

They left for the U.S. in 1890, and them emigrated to Jerusalem, Palestine in 
1898, where they opened a tea & coffee shop in the Jewish Quarter of the Old 
City.

Israel and Chaia are supposedly buried on the Mount of Olives in Israel.

I would love to find out more about their life in (or near) Czernowitz, 
including about their business.

I would also love to learn whether they are in fact buried on the Mount of 
Olives.

I would also love find a way to track down the descendants of their daughters 
in Israel. One of their daughters, my great-grandmother (Rose Morgenstern) 
returned to the U.S. in 1906, and we have lost touch with all the family 
members who remained in Israel.

Any suggestions?

Thank you,
Margo Hittleman

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