> Begin forwarded message: > > From: Alti Rodal <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [czernowitz-l] Commemoration of the Holocaust in Bukovina and > Transnistria - Your Feedback is Requested! > Date: July 23, 2021 at 7:11:46 PM GMT-4 > To: [email protected] > > Dear Edgar, > > Greatly appreciate all you’ve done and continue to do for the Cz-L group. > > Based on my own experience, I have a suggestion for you and others to > consider. Might we pool resources to facilitate confirmation of the > parameters of mass grave sites in northern Bukovina by employing modern > non-invasive ground radar technologies or drones? > > You may recall that the monument placed in 2001 at the site of the mass grave > in Kyseliv/Borivtsi (where three of my grandparents and extended family lie, > ~ 45 km northwest of Chernivtsi) was missing all its plaques by 2010. I will > always be grateful to you for undertaking to drive by motorcycle to Kyseliv > to meet and make inquiries with the then officials of the village. I’ve been > back a few times since and can now report that, with the help of Ilya Khoch > (currently head of the Hesed Shushana in Chernivtsi) and the current mayor of > Kyselev Valery Fedoriak, new plaques have been affixed to the large rock and > a full ceremony, covered by Ukrainian national television, was held at the > site in September 2019. > > However, that is not the end of the story. At the ceremony in 2019 I was > approached by two local ladies who wanted to show me the location of a second > mass grave site in the middle of a cultivated field. My archival research had > indicated that there was indeed a second mass grave, but the local people > with whom I spoke over the years said that they did not know its location. > Before initiating a second monument, I think it important to verify whether > the relatively small area in the middle of a field is in fact a mass grave. > The pandemic has put a return visit on hold, but the sense of “unfinished > business” weighs heavily on me. LIDAR technology should enable such > verification cost-effectively and, importantly, without disturbing the soil. > > As you noted, there are other unmarked mass graves scattered across northern > Bukovina. [A young German photographer showed me a picture he took in 2011 in > in Drachyntsi/Drazhinets – also in the Chernivtsi region – of a garbage dump > that was sitting on top of what some local people told him was a mass > grave.]. As there is considerable cost involved in bringing ground survey > equipment to remote locations, would it not make sense to organize a small > project to ascertain where the mass graves are in fact, before proceeding > with the other steps involved in commissioning monuments? > > With all best wishes, > > Alti > > >> On Jul 23, 2021, at 4:34 AM, Edgar Hauster <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >> Czernowitzers... >> >> It has become a bit quiet in our Czernowitz-L Discussion Group lately. This >> is not least due to the fact that the Corona pandemic has restricted travel >> to and from Czernowitz. Nevertheless, significant things are happening >> behind the scenes, which I will report on in the near future. The tireless >> efforts of some of our members have resulted in the current identification >> of potential financial resources to support the commemoration of the >> >> HOLOCAUST IN NORTHERN BUKOVINA AND TRANSNISTRIA. >> >> I myself have seen a number of monuments, commemorative plaques, etc. in >> Czernowitz, Mohyliv-Podilsky, Bershad, and elsewhere, but we all know that >> there are places in the region that were the scenes of terrible crimes, but >> where there is nothing at all to commemorate them. >> >> PLEASE SUGGEST SUITABLE LOCATIONS, EVENTS, NAMES FOR SUCH COMMEMORATIVE >> MONUMENTS! >> >> Let's use this unique opportunity to keep the memory of our ancestors as a >> reminder for future generations. We are looking very much forward to your >> feedback. >> >> Edgar Hauster >> >> ******************************************************************************* >> This moderated discussion group is for information exchange on the subject >> of >> Czernowitz and Sadagora Jewish History and Genealogy. The opinions expressed >> in these posts are the opinions of the original poster only and not >> necessarily >> the opinions of the List Owner, the Webmaster or any other members >> or entities connected with this mailing list. The Czernowitz-L list has >> an associated web site at http://czernowitz.ehpes.com >> <http://czernowitz.ehpes.com/> that includes a >> searchable archive of all messages posted to this list. 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