On 12/7/13, Ralf Mardorf <[email protected]> wrote: > If you blow the whistle against a nation or big company you're a hero, > if you do the same for Linux you're a troll :D.
I disagree. Note, I did not say "you are wrong". I did not say "Gnome3 is bad; DBUS is bad; systemd is really evil" :) Thick skin is good, for inter-personal matters yes? Ralph perhaps you might find utility in choosing to make "owning" statements more often - like "_I_ dislike Gnome3", or even better "I dislike DBUS because jackd has a dependency on dbus and won't run unless dbus is first running, and when I run dbus, then my favourite email program causes 'urgency' messages to appear on my desktop which I don't like". When genuine technical issue is spoken, then there is a chance that the problem can be fixed, or bug report made etc. And this type of discussions feels fruitful to others on the list, people see we are working together, we are (may be slowly) fixing problems by reporting bugs and fixing actual problems. Ralph, I am giving these examples because you make it easy for people to shout "troll!" When you or me or anyone makes broad-brush stroke statements of assumed fact and absolute truth, which is in reality (ie in the words written in the email), no more than personal opinion, then the statement-maker is an easy target for "you are a troll!" accusations. It is not only ok, but a good thing, for all of us on debian-user for example, to encourage each other to keep discussions on-topic, especially when they go too far off-topic. Of course we on debian-user want to encourage _Debian_ usage, and want our debian-user list to be not swamped with emails or whole threads promoting other GNU/Linux distributions and/ or dissing Debian GNU/Linux and/ or "bagging" or bad-mouthing debian software on grounds that are not clearly stated (opinion, or user-interface, or low-level). Good luck, Zenaan _______________________________________________ D-community-offtopic mailing list [email protected] http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic
