Aaaah!

Compilation error with the second option was a typo by me. Second option works 
the same as the first.

The reason appears to be that if the database has a NOT NULL condition this 
takes precedence over the validation routine ie validation test does not take 
place and the update is ignored. Also I redid the validation just to test if 
the field was under 4 in length. I then shortened the field to 3 chars. 
Validation worked fine ie I got the error message and the save was cancelled 
BUT the working data stayed at the shortened field even if I moved to other 
records and returned. I assume that this means that if I get an error in the 
validation routine I should do a requery.
        Rodgy

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