Ed Leafe wrote:
> On Nov 29, 2008, at 4:47 PM, alex wrote:
>
>   
>> I've just (re-)started to use Dabo, and I'm struggling a bit with the
>> ClassDesigner. A few questions to get me started :
>>
>> 1. What is the right way to report problems (when they are fairly
>> specific) ?
>>     
>
>       This is the place. If it turns out to be an actual bug and not just a  
> misunderstanding due to holes in the documentation (of which there are  
> many!), then you can enter it as an issue on our Trac system 
> (http://trac.dabodev.com/ 
> ).
>
>       Also, the version info is critical. The easiest way to get this is to  
> run any of the Dabo tools, and choose the Help/About menu. You can see  
> all the important info there, and copy it easily so that you can paste  
> it in your email.
>
>   
Thanks. I'm using
> Platform: Win
> Python Version: 2.5.1 on win32
> Dabo Version: Version 0.8.4; Revision ~4111
> UI Version: 2.8.6.1 on wxMSW
>
so I guess I ned to update via SVN before I can reasonably report 
anything as a problem.


>> 2. The ClassDesigner seems fairly fragile; quite often I've made some
>> change, saved the cdxml file, and then the next time I try to re-open
>> the file I get errors (and the file doesn't load, or doesn't load
>> completely). And it seems to be hard to determine whare/what the  
>> problem
>> is in the cdxml file. Any suggestions for a strategy on tracking this
>> down, or getting the cdxml file to read in again ?  Generally, I can't
>> fully remember the steps leading up to the problem - is the cdxml file
>> itself (and the traceback) enough input for a problem report ?
>>     
>
>       First, the version you are using is critical. It's been nearly 6  
> months since 0.8.4 was released, and an awful lot has changed since  
> then.
>
>       Specifically, there were some cases where things that were set in the  
> Class Designer were not properly persisted to the .cdxml file. All the  
> known cases of this have been fixed within the last two months, so if  
> you're using the current SVN version, then you've found an outstanding  
> bug that needs to be fixed.
>
>   
Best example (i.e. I understand it !) is that if I create a TextBox and 
set the value to an integer value, then it fails on trying to read the 
cdxml back in, with traceback

> Traceback (most recent call last):
>   File "C:\Python25\lib\site-packages\wx-2.8-msw-unicode\wx\_core.py", 
> line 1435
> 9, in <lambda>
>     lambda event: event.callable(*event.args, **event.kw) )
>   File "C:\dabo\ide\ClassDesignerFormMixin.py", line 98, in 
> restoreSizeAndPositi
> on
>     self.saveState()
>   File "C:\dabo\ide\ClassDesignerFormMixin.py", line 93, in saveState
>     self._savedState = self._getSavedState()
>   File "C:\dabo\ide\ClassDesignerFormMixin.py", line 104, in 
> _getSavedState
>     return self.getDesignerDict(propsToExclude=("Top", "Left"))
>   File "C:\dabo\ide\ClassDesignerComponents.py", line 223, in 
> getDesignerDict
>     ret["children"] = self.getChildrenPropDict(classDict)
>   File "C:\dabo\ide\ClassDesignerComponents.py", line 422, in 
> getChildrenPropDic
> t
>     ret.append(sz.getDesignerDict(itemNum=len(ret), classDict=szDict))
>   File "C:\dabo\ide\ClassDesignerComponents.py", line 223, in 
> getDesignerDict
>     ret["children"] = self.getChildrenPropDict(classDict)
>   File "C:\dabo\ide\ClassDesignerComponents.py", line 1013, in 
> getChildrenPropDi
> ct
>     classDict=winDict)
>   File "C:\dabo\ide\ClassDesignerComponents.py", line 188, in 
> getDesignerDict
>     dv = int(dv)
> ValueError: invalid literal for int() with base 10: ''
> Traceback (most recent call last):
>   File "C:\Python25\lib\site-packages\wx-2.8-msw-unicode\wx\_core.py", 
> line 1435
> 9, in <lambda>
>     lambda event: event.callable(*event.args, **event.kw) )
>   File "C:\dabo\ide\ClassDesignerFormMixin.py", line 93, in saveState
>     self._savedState = self._getSavedState()
>   File "C:\dabo\ide\ClassDesignerFormMixin.py", line 104, in 
> _getSavedState
>     return self.getDesignerDict(propsToExclude=("Top", "Left"))
>   File "C:\dabo\ide\ClassDesignerComponents.py", line 223, in 
> getDesignerDict
>     ret["children"] = self.getChildrenPropDict(classDict)
>   File "C:\dabo\ide\ClassDesignerComponents.py", line 422, in 
> getChildrenPropDic
> t
>     ret.append(sz.getDesignerDict(itemNum=len(ret), classDict=szDict))
>   File "C:\dabo\ide\ClassDesignerComponents.py", line 223, in 
> getDesignerDict
>     ret["children"] = self.getChildrenPropDict(classDict)
>   File "C:\dabo\ide\ClassDesignerComponents.py", line 1013, in 
> getChildrenPropDi
> ct
>     classDict=winDict)
>   File "C:\dabo\ide\ClassDesignerComponents.py", line 188, in 
> getDesignerDict
>     dv = int(dv)
> ValueError: invalid literal for int() with base 10: ''

>       Here's what I would do: right-click on the textbox, and choose 'Add  
> Slot Left'. In that slot, add your sizer. To move the textbox, right- 
> click on it again and select 'Cut'. Now right-click on the new  
> location where you want it, and select 'Paste'. The textbox, with all  
> its settings, should now be in the new location. You still have the  
> old slot where the textbox was; to get rid of this, right-click on it  
> and select 'Delete This Slot'.
>
>   
Cool - thanks.

>> and a couple of general ones ...
>>
>> 4. Any plans to support FlexGridSizers ?
>>     
>
>       No, because we want to keep the approach to sizers as clean as  
> possible. I think having a 1-D and a 2-D sizer is sufficient. You can  
> achieve any layout possible for a FlexGridSizer with a GridBagSizer  
> (the superclass of dGridSizer) by setting the respective RowExpand and  
> ColExpand settings to allow "growth" as needed.
>
>       Personally, this is one area where I think wx went way overboard, and  
> overcomplicated things. When we created Dabo, we didn't blindly copy  
> everything wx did; instead, we took the good parts and wrapped the  
> "bad" parts so that the result is clean and consistent.
>
>   
OK, I'll look into that, thanks.
>> 5. What's the status of MenuDesigner ?
>>     
>
>       Right now it's in limbo until I can find some time to focus on the  
> IDE. And while there are several visual glitches with the Menu  
> Designer, especially on Windows, it generally creates usable menu files.
>
>   
Hmmm - I couldn't get it top do very much at all. On startup, I get
> Traceback (most recent call last):
>   File 
> "c:\python25\lib\site-packages\Dabo-0.8.4-py2.5.egg\dabo\ui\uiwx\dTreeVie
> w.py", line 1038, in __onTreeSel
>     self.raiseEvent(dEvents.TreeSelection, evt)
>   File 
> "c:\python25\lib\site-packages\Dabo-0.8.4-py2.5.egg\dabo\ui\uiwx\dPemMixi
> n.py", line 915, in raiseEvent
>     super(dPemMixin, self).raiseEvent(eventClass, nativeEvent, *args, 
> **kwargs)
>   File 
> "c:\python25\lib\site-packages\Dabo-0.8.4-py2.5.egg\dabo\lib\eventMixin.p
> y", line 93, in raiseEvent
>     bindingFunction(event)
>   File "C:\dabo\ide\ClassDesignerTreeSheet.py", line 79, in onTreeSel
>     dui.callAfter(self.Controller.treeSelect)
> AttributeError: 'dApp' object has no attribute 'treeSelect'


Should I retry with latest svn version ?

Any recommendation for svn tools ? Is tortoise svn still the easiest, or 
is there another one to try ?

Thanks again
-- Alex



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