On 25 Sep 2012, at 13:54, Kingsley Idehen <[email protected]> wrote:

> On 9/25/12 3:21 AM, Henry Story wrote:
>> Ref: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-hoffman-dane-smime-04
>> 
>> On 21 Sep 2012, at 19:27, Warren Kumari <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> On Sep 10, 2012, at 5:25 PM, Warren Kumari <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Dear WG,
>>>> 
>>>> This draft has already revived some comment (and has been revised to 
>>>> incorporate / address those),  so I'm assuming that there will be 
>>>> sufficient interest to adopt, but for the form of the thing:
>>>> 
>>>> This starts a call for adoption of draft-hoffman-dane-smime.
>>>> Please provide feedback as to if you would like this draft adopted by Sept 
>>>> 17th, 2012.
>>> We have discussed this, and see sufficient interest for adopting this draft 
>>> -- would the authors please re-submit as draft-dane-?
>> 
>> On the whole, my view is that associating a public key to a user is better 
>> done by WebID http://webid.info/  ( see spec http://webid.info/spec/ ). 
>> Putting that information in the DNS misses out on a lot of other information 
>> you would like to have about a user, is difficult to read, write, and on the 
>> whole is very cumbersome. The reason for putting public keys of servers in 
>> the DNS is that servers tend not to change that much, their tend to not be 
>> that many services per domain, etc...
>> 
>> There are proposals of using the WebID public keys for MIME on the WebID 
>> community group.
>> 
>> Henry
>> 
>>> W
>>> 
>>>> W
>>>> 
>>>> -- 
>>>> Never criticize a man till you've walked a mile in his shoes.  Then if he 
>>>> didn't like what you've said, he's a mile away and barefoot.
>>>> 
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> 
> Henry,
> 
> S/MIME and WebID work together very well. That's something we've long 
> implemented. Notice the certificate used to sign this mail :-)
> 
> To conclude, WebID is another option with finer granularity and more 
> distributed control (no DNS admin access privileges required, just own a 
> profile document) re., mail sender identity verification.

It may be interesting to know from the DANE working group, what they think 
would need to be done to make the application of WebID to S/MIME something more 
widely known about. Currently the WebID spec ( http://webid.info/spec ) 
illustrates how one can use a WebID in a client certificate to authenticate 
with TLS on any server. Perhaps the WebID working group should put some 
documents forward on how this can be used for S/MIME? Or perhaps an RFC would 
be more useful for that?
I don't think we have any formal document on that yet.

  Henry


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