On 3/14/15, 4:00 AM, "Viktor Dukhovni" <[email protected]> wrote:

>On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 01:10:21PM -0700, Paul Hoffman wrote:
>
>> This could go either way. If the WG thinks that the user, or
>> someone responsible for the user, will add and change DNS records
>> for that user, your proposal would clearly be better because you
>> could delegate the user to a new subzone. On the other hand, if
>> the WG thinks that the security admin will be the one adding and
>> changing records for a particular type of mail security, then the
>> design we are using now is better. I lean towards the second, but
>> can see the merit of the first now that people are thinking of
>> using this for things other than just mail security.
>
>I think this mental model of tools that update the DNS is too naive.
>It seems to assume that the tools can make decisions based only
>on the requestor credentials and the owner name of the RRset to
>be added.

I agree enthusiastically.

>
>I think it is far more likely that administrators and users will
>be interacting with a middle-ware management system that enables
>them to add and remove keys and *that* system will be able to
>publish all the requisite records on behalf of either individual
>users or administrators.

This is exactly the direction I think things need to head to move
DANE adoption forward into the mainstream.

>
>So the structure of the DNS namespace should be optimized for
>clarity/simplicity, rather than a presumed set of management tools
>(e.g. direct authorization to inject records via dynamic update into
>a particular portion of the namespace).
> 
>-- 
>       Viktor.
>
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