> > Yeah, let's not have the designers talking with the deployers.  That can
> > lead to interoperability and harmony, which IETF is dead set against.
> 
> Well, no.  This is an artifact of how the IETF works.  

You mean, how the IETF fails.

> I think on balance the decision to terminate working groups
> as soon as they complete their charter work has led to
> exactly the problems you describe, but it's really
> bureaucratic rather than malicious.

If it's a pervasive, bureaucratic issue, then it should be fixed even
more than if it was just based on one person's malice.

The bizarre part for me is that it's easier just to let it continue.
So why does the bureacracy do actual work to shut it down?

        John

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