Hi Lorenzo,
Lorenzo Fontanella schrieb am 07.10.21 um 11:12:
Hi Terry
Hi Community
Interesting and already known suggestions, however they are not feasible.
If you try to import even half of the archive I'm talking about, 250,000
files, you will immediately realize that it would become unmanageable and
slow.
That's as long as the import process takes. But - apart from migration
to a new tool - nobody really imports 500.000 images in one take.
Normally you import all or part of the photos as soon as the shooting
ends - no more than a few hundred photos at one time.
And - of course - over the years the archive will grow and finally you
reach your 500.000 images at one point.
So I'd suggest to import step by step / project by project or year by
year depending how your archive is organised (I think it is).
I don't use Lightroom.
Currently I use Xnview for a first evaluation and when I have decided what
to develop, I import it into DT.
BUT... I have more and more often the need to perform an overall
preliminary development and then to choose the final ones for the finished
development.
And with DarkTable, this dynamic that requires importing every time,
lengthens the work.
What you are requesting is something like Lightzone
<http://lightzoneproject.org/> is doing things.
They simply have a file browser that shows previews.
To do this in a reasonable time they do not use standard xmp files for
storing their non-destructive edits (I always recommend reading this
first:
https://web.archive.org/web/20140912051214/http://www.adobe.com/digitalimag/pdfs/non_destructive_imaging.pdf).
Rather they use non-standard jpg images as sidecars. They contain the
latest preview as well as the edits of the RAW file.
This of course expands the necessary disk space as for every edited RAW
there is an additional JPG for the sake of having a preview ... don't
know if this is the better way to do things ...
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regards
Bernhard
https://www.bilddateien.de
Lorenzo Fontanella
https://www.lorenzofontanella.it/
Il gio 7 ott 2021, 03:40 Terry Pinfold <terry.pinf...@utas.edu.au> ha
scritto:
Hi Lorenzo,
I certainly understand your desire to have a catlog system like
Lightroom, however, the main focus and strength of DT is its editing
capabilities. Maybe it is best to find a FOOS browser to organise and
catalog your images and then when the images are located in the browers
then use the open with function to open the image in DT for editing.
I too would love a browser like Lightroom's in DT, but not at the expense
of speed or performance.
Maybe the people in this group would be able to share which FOOS browsers
are available and would be best to use for your needs.
cheers
Terry
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*Subject:* Re: [darktable-user] Adding a browser
I think this would have many drawbacks ...
Why not simply use some sort of browser already there in the operating
system and then 'right-click' - 'open in darktable' to edit the photo
you like to work with?
Import has many funktions:
- make images indexable: search by EXIF-Values as well as Metadata =>
database is absolute must for adequate response times
- database stores edits (so they are double-saved)
- all imported images are also kept as previews in the cache folder and
kept in sync with the database.
Believe me - you do not want to wait for edited images been shown in a
preview or some sort of lighttable if every single picture must be
calculated every single time you open that folder ...
So for me the current concept makes sense.
just my 2ct
--
regards
Bernhard
https://www.bilddateien.de
Lorenzo Fontanella schrieb am 06.10.21 um 17:58:
Evening,
I submit to you some considerations:
DarkTable originated along the lines of Lightroom but with the purpose of
remaining open source and making improvements over the same software from
Adobe.
Today the 2 softwares are almost alternative to each other.
Using DT, I realize (and I'm always amazed) of some functions that other
softwares dream of, I speak for example of the perspective correction
module or of the color search table module that offers the possibility of
selection in absolute values.
However, this function is missing in DT as well as in Lightroom and for
both of them, in my opinion, it is a reason to slow down the adoption of
this software solution.
I'm obviously talking about the lack of a browser integrated to the
software that allows you to simply browse the folders of the HDD and open
the images you want to edit.
In this way you are bound to the import that if it must be done on many
files at a time, slows down the whole process and discourages.
I suggest adding a browser that allows you to browse the folders of the
whole archive without having to import them.
Once you have started to edit the file, obviously the development queue
could be saved on sidecar files, if the modified images have not been
imported.
What do you think.
For me it would be a double option that would facilitate the adoption of
this great software by those who do not want to be forced to work with
databases and forced imports.
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Lorenzo Fontanella
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