On 2013-02-01 03:40, johannes hanika wrote:
hey,

nice work, seems to run well telling by your video. i have some
stylistic remarks :)

yellow stars, really? i strongly resent colors (and strong shapes) in
a ui around pictures.. at some point it doesn't look like the
collection of your photos but more like a bubblegum vending machine.

I used to resent the darktable approach of hiding everything until the mouse is over a thumbnail, but I have since learned to appreciate that this help me see the images better. This is also why I want the ratings to be a toggle-able setting, because I only sometimes do I want to see them everywhere. But /when/ I do want to see them everywhere, I want them to be easy to see. Nevertheless, I would be willing to compromise on the color, if it means getting it into master :).

i know you can switch it off, but even with less obtrusive defaults i
will need a lot of convincing why it is a good idea to have it.

Because it helps me keep track of my progress. My workflow looks like this:

- import film roll
- quickly go through all images by accepting or rejecting them (stars and reject cross) - process and tag the highest rated images first, then the rest (if I feel like it...)

For this process it really helps me to see how far I have come, what I rated that image, etc. I probably don't want ALL the settings turned on at the same time, that would really be chaos.

also, as jcsogo said in irc, i'm not sure about the buttons. maybe a
`clutter level' option in the preferences would do.

I would be fine with settings in the preferences dialog, as long as there are shortcuts that allow me to quickly enable/disable the toggles. I want the toggle buttons strictly from a UI perspective, I think it is bad form to have too many things that are only accessible through a keyboard shortcut. On the other hand, if they are accessible through the preferences dialog then maybe that is good enough.

did you benchmark that with `darktable -d perf -d lighttable'? i would
expect the color label query to slow it down somewhat on zoomed out
views.

I have not done a proper benchmark yet, but I have not noticed any performance changes either. I have tried disabling and enabling everything and could not really notice a difference. I will do a test with -d lighttable later.

I don't want to start a new discussion about performance in this thread, but my idea for the future was to load all the details for all displayed images in a single query and store them in a struct for later access. This ought to improve performance - what do you think?.

Regards,
Eckhart Pedersen
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