On 10/02/14 13:37, Pascal Obry wrote:
Hi!
> 2014-02-10 13:07 GMT+01:00 Tobias Ellinghaus <h...@gmx.de>:
>> Maybe we should ask a different question first: Do we want to keep the
>> tagxtag
>> table? People have complained about the tag ordering a few times, and that
>> table is only used to make educated guesses to propose tags that are more
>> likely to be assigned. If no one uses and/or likes that feature we could as
>> well drop it and get rid of all that code.
>
> I do use quite a lot the tagging module and found this feature really
> nice (I come
> from Lightroom which has the same feature BTW). So I'm really against removing
> this feature.
IMHO the main objection is, that popularity sounds interesting, but
tends to confuse IRL. Especially, if the tag you need does not show in
the list (as it is too long and you really need a rare one ;) or is
/somewhere/ in the list:
While one can easily browse an alphabetical list quite fast, even if it
is long, a "random" one, as it appears from some "popularity contest"
like tagxtag, is really nasty. Just think of a long list of tags. It
works nice if you only have a few (then the question is if you need it
at all) or if you only use a few tags very often.
That said: I think tagxtag isn't bad as such but I think there needs to
be a way to sort of "disable it on the fly" to get more meaningful tags
proposed.
There was also a bug addressed (but I'm not sure that it really solves
the problem) when you key in a later word in a hierarchical list. This
didn't yield any results in the past. Now, I think at least the
popularity count is suboptimal.
As far as I can see tagxtag only works (well? at all?) with unnested,
ie. flat tags but not with a tree like structure. However, especially a
tree like structure adds quite a lot of semantics on the way you go
through the tree. While "flower wall red yellow" contains the same words
as "flower|red wall|yellow" clearly the latter relates to a red flower
and a yellow wall, while the former may specify also specify a yellow
flower and the abstract concept of red, and a concrete wall. Just to
make one of the simplest of examples. (Homonyms and stuff may play
another role where you need additional context for disambiguation.)
jm2c
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