Then I'm afraid there's nothing I can suggest at the moment other than running X11 build of darktable in fullscreen XQuartz. BTW, in git master it's possible to overwrite DPI setting using ~/.config/darktable/darktablerc file so that interface would be bigger (or maybe you can set proper DPI through xrandr). It's a question to GTK+ or/and cairo developers why all graphics run in pixel-doubling mode. Since I don't have retina display, I'm not in the place to report this issue to them (I won't be able to provide any feedback to them).
On Tue, 19 Aug 2014 19:15:12 +0200 (CEST) "tiz...@libero.it" <tiz...@libero.it> wrote: > Ok, now I got it :) > No, the "Open in Low Resolution" is not checked. > > By the way, if I check it the "pixelated" effect extends to the entire > interface (text in the menu and toolbars), similar to the screenshot 3 I > uploaded previously. > > >----Messaggio originale---- > >Da: para...@paraf.in > >Data: 19/08/2014 19.05 > >A: <darktable-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> > >Ogg: Re: [darktable-devel] R: Re: R: Re: darktable on HiDPI screen (rMBP) > > > >Don't start darktable, just open /Applications directory, find > >darktable.app there, open context menu for it and select "Get Info". > > > >On Tue, 19 Aug 2014 18:51:55 +0200 (CEST) > >"tiz...@libero.it" <tiz...@libero.it> wrote: > > > >> Sorry, I'm new to Darktable and I cannot find this checkbox. The only > >> thing > I > >> could find is the "global preferences" button (gear icon on top left of > >> canvas), but neither "GUI options" nor "core options" have such a setting. > >> > >> By the way, below a link to two more screenshots: I just realised that at > 100% > >> image zoom in darktable, a checkerboard pattern appears for the 1.4.2 > release. > >> Again, x11 fullscreen works fine. > >> > >> http://we.tl/mQgabCKw9H > >> > >> > >> > >> >----Messaggio originale---- > >> >Da: para...@paraf.in > >> >Data: 19/08/2014 18.16 > >> >A: <darktable-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> > >> >Ogg: Re: [darktable-devel] R: Re: darktable on HiDPI screen (rMBP) > >> > > >> >Can you please open an Info window for darktable application (I'm > >> >referring to 1.4.2 release obviously) and look for "Open in Low > >> >Resolution" checkbox? Is it there, is it enabled and is it dimmed? > >> > > >> >On Tue, 19 Aug 2014 18:00:34 +0200 (CEST) > >> >"tiz...@libero.it" <tiz...@libero.it> wrote: > >> > > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >----Messaggio originale---- > >> >> >Da: para...@paraf.in > >> >> >Data: 19/08/2014 11.22 > >> >> >A: <darktable-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> > >> >> >Ogg: Re: [darktable-devel] darktable on HiDPI screen (rMBP) > >> >> > > >> >> >Hi, > >> >> > > >> >> >On Tue, 19 Aug 2014 11:01:17 +0200 (CEST) > >> >> >"tiz...@libero.it" <tiz...@libero.it> wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> >> Hi all, > >> >> >> > >> >> >> I just decided to try darktable on a Mac Book Pro with retina > display > >> (I > >> >> am > >> >> >> exploring the free alternatives to the rather expensive Adobe > >> Lightroom). > >> >> >> > >> >> >> As for many other applications on the Retina displays there are some > >> >> issues > >> >> >> due to the pixel scaling. Most of the interface looks great, but > some > >> >> elements > >> >> >> show the "pixelated" effect due to pixel scaling. Unfortunately this > >> >> affects > >> >> >> also the main canvas where the photo are displayed and this renders > the > >> >> entire > >> >> >> software essentially unusable for me. > >> >> > > >> >> >screenshots would be nice, some people mention from time to time > >> >> >problems with high DPI, but few of them show how it looks exactly. > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> I uploaded some screenshots here, comparing the different > >> >> configurations > I > >> >> tried so far. > >> >> There's also a screenshot I took from the demo version of Lightroom 5, > as > >> a > >> >> benchmark. > >> >> View the pictures at 100% zoom and you'll se what I mean by "pixelated". > >> >> The effect is best noticed in the photo around the small lamp post and > at > >> the > >> >> nearby balcony. > >> >> Going up with the resolution the effect is less noticeable, but it only > >> >> disappear with X11 in fullscreen > >> >> (resolution set to the maximum with xrandr). > >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> After installing the latest release (1.4.2), I also pulled out the > git > >> >> repo > >> >> >> and build dark table from source on my machine (darktable 1.5 > >> >> +1718~gf7b7ed6). > >> >> >> All dependencies have been installed through homebrew. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> This version shows up as XQuartz window and entering X11 fullscreen > in > >> >> high > >> >> >> resolution, the result is acceptable. Of course no pixelation, font > >> size > >> >> is > >> >> >> somewhat small but still readable: overall better than in the > released > >> >> version > >> >> >> (if there's a trade-off I'd rather favour image quality over menu > >> >> appearance). > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Issues with this are that I have to enter X11 fullscreen (XQuartz > >> issue), > >> >> and > >> >> >> most important I get a segfault 11 the second time I start dark > table > >> >> (after > >> >> >> rebooting it starts again). > >> >> >> > >> >> >> So here my questions: > >> >> >> - Is there some advance in the development in order to solve the > >> problems > >> >> with > >> >> >> HiDPI displays? > >> >> > > >> >> >Some time ago one of the users suggested adding NSPrincipalClass -> > >> >> >NSApplication to Info.plist, which should have helped with retina > >> >> >support, but we never got any solid confirmation what changed after I > >> >> >did that. Also I think houz did some changes in git master which > >> >> >concern UI scaling according to DPI setting, but I never tested that on > >> >> >OS X. > >> >> > > >> >> >> - How do I properly build darktable from source on os x? > >> >> > > >> >> >See packaging/macosx/BUILD.txt. You have built gtk with X11 backend, I > >> >> >use native quartz backend, which makes more sense to me. > >> >> > >> >> Ok, I missed that file: I only followed the general build instructions. > >> >> Moreover, I'm rather new to OS X, so I don't actually know how to set > the > >> >> native quartz backend. I'll have to look for some documentation and do > >> some > >> >> trial and error. > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> >> - Are there actually any developers testing/developing darktable on > the > >> >> rMBP? > >> >> > > >> >> >I'm the only developer with Mac, and I don't have retina display, so > no. > >> >> > > >> >> >> - By chance, does anybody know if I can get full resolution in > XQuartz > >> also > >> >> in > >> >> >> rootless mode? > >> >> > > >> >> >I didn't even know that it has any modes other than rootless... How do > >> >> >you enter fullscreen mode? > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> Under the menu X11 -> Preferences, thick the Fullscreen Mode checkbox. > >> Then > >> >> the combination alt-cmd-A toggles between Fullscreen and normal mode. > To > >> take > >> >> advantage of full retina resolution in fullscreen, I use "xrandr -- > output > >> >> default --mode 2880x1800 --rate 60". > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Thanks and best regards! > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Mauro > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> > >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >> >> >> _______________________________________________ > >> >> >> darktable-devel mailing list > >> >> >> darktable-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > >> >> >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/darktable-devel > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > >> > >------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >> >> >_______________________________________________ > >> >> >darktable-devel mailing list > >> >> >darktable-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > >> >> >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/darktable-devel > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >> >> _______________________________________________ > >> >> darktable-devel mailing list > >> >> darktable-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > >> >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/darktable-devel > >> > > >> > >> > >------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >> >_______________________________________________ > >> >darktable-devel mailing list > >> >darktable-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > >> >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/darktable-devel > >> > > >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >> _______________________________________________ > >> darktable-devel mailing list > >> darktable-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/darktable-devel > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ > >darktable-devel mailing list > >darktable-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/darktable-devel > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > _______________________________________________ > darktable-devel mailing list > darktable-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/darktable-devel ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ darktable-devel mailing list darktable-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/darktable-devel
