Thank you anyway for the support. Running the X11 build should be fine and I'll try adjusting the DPI settings to improve the UI size.
Still I have to solve a nasty problem with the git-master build: after quitting and starting again darktable I get a segmentation fault, which at the moment I can solve only by deleting the library.db file. I suspect there's something wrong with the database, but I still cannot isolate the problem. I might come back later on this. >----Messaggio originale---- >Da: para...@paraf.in >Data: 19/08/2014 19.30 >A: >Cc: <darktable-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> >Ogg: Re: [darktable-devel] R: Re: R: Re: R: Re: darktable on HiDPI screen (rMBP) > >Then I'm afraid there's nothing I can suggest at the moment other than >running X11 build of darktable in fullscreen XQuartz. BTW, in git >master it's possible to overwrite DPI setting using >~/.config/darktable/darktablerc file so that interface would be bigger >(or maybe you can set proper DPI through xrandr). >It's a question to GTK+ or/and cairo developers why all graphics run in >pixel-doubling mode. Since I don't have retina display, I'm not in the >place to report this issue to them (I won't be able to provide any >feedback to them). > >On Tue, 19 Aug 2014 19:15:12 +0200 (CEST) >"tiz...@libero.it" <tiz...@libero.it> wrote: > >> Ok, now I got it :) >> No, the "Open in Low Resolution" is not checked. >> >> By the way, if I check it the "pixelated" effect extends to the entire >> interface (text in the menu and toolbars), similar to the screenshot 3 I >> uploaded previously. >> >> >----Messaggio originale---- >> >Da: para...@paraf.in >> >Data: 19/08/2014 19.05 >> >A: <darktable-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> >> >Ogg: Re: [darktable-devel] R: Re: R: Re: darktable on HiDPI screen (rMBP) >> > >> >Don't start darktable, just open /Applications directory, find >> >darktable.app there, open context menu for it and select "Get Info". >> > >> >On Tue, 19 Aug 2014 18:51:55 +0200 (CEST) >> >"tiz...@libero.it" <tiz...@libero.it> wrote: >> > >> >> Sorry, I'm new to Darktable and I cannot find this checkbox. The only thing >> I >> >> could find is the "global preferences" button (gear icon on top left of >> >> canvas), but neither "GUI options" nor "core options" have such a setting. >> >> >> >> By the way, below a link to two more screenshots: I just realised that at >> 100% >> >> image zoom in darktable, a checkerboard pattern appears for the 1.4.2 >> release. >> >> Again, x11 fullscreen works fine. >> >> >> >> http://we.tl/mQgabCKw9H >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >----Messaggio originale---- >> >> >Da: para...@paraf.in >> >> >Data: 19/08/2014 18.16 >> >> >A: <darktable-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> >> >> >Ogg: Re: [darktable-devel] R: Re: darktable on HiDPI screen (rMBP) >> >> > >> >> >Can you please open an Info window for darktable application (I'm >> >> >referring to 1.4.2 release obviously) and look for "Open in Low >> >> >Resolution" checkbox? Is it there, is it enabled and is it dimmed? >> >> > >> >> >On Tue, 19 Aug 2014 18:00:34 +0200 (CEST) >> >> >"tiz...@libero.it" <tiz...@libero.it> wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >----Messaggio originale---- >> >> >> >Da: para...@paraf.in >> >> >> >Data: 19/08/2014 11.22 >> >> >> >A: <darktable-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> >> >> >> >Ogg: Re: [darktable-devel] darktable on HiDPI screen (rMBP) >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Hi, >> >> >> > >> >> >> >On Tue, 19 Aug 2014 11:01:17 +0200 (CEST) >> >> >> >"tiz...@libero.it" <tiz...@libero.it> wrote: >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> Hi all, >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I just decided to try darktable on a Mac Book Pro with retina >> display >> >> (I >> >> >> am >> >> >> >> exploring the free alternatives to the rather expensive Adobe >> >> Lightroom). >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> As for many other applications on the Retina displays there are some >> >> >> issues >> >> >> >> due to the pixel scaling. Most of the interface looks great, but >> some >> >> >> elements >> >> >> >> show the "pixelated" effect due to pixel scaling. Unfortunately this >> >> >> affects >> >> >> >> also the main canvas where the photo are displayed and this renders >> the >> >> >> entire >> >> >> >> software essentially unusable for me. >> >> >> > >> >> >> >screenshots would be nice, some people mention from time to time >> >> >> >problems with high DPI, but few of them show how it looks exactly. >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> I uploaded some screenshots here, comparing the different configurations >> I >> >> >> tried so far. >> >> >> There's also a screenshot I took from the demo version of Lightroom 5, >> as >> >> a >> >> >> benchmark. >> >> >> View the pictures at 100% zoom and you'll se what I mean by "pixelated". >> >> >> The effect is best noticed in the photo around the small lamp post and >> at >> >> the >> >> >> nearby balcony. >> >> >> Going up with the resolution the effect is less noticeable, but it only >> >> >> disappear with X11 in fullscreen >> >> >> (resolution set to the maximum with xrandr). >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> After installing the latest release (1.4.2), I also pulled out the >> git >> >> >> repo >> >> >> >> and build dark table from source on my machine (darktable 1.5 >> >> >> +1718~gf7b7ed6). >> >> >> >> All dependencies have been installed through homebrew. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> This version shows up as XQuartz window and entering X11 fullscreen >> in >> >> >> high >> >> >> >> resolution, the result is acceptable. Of course no pixelation, font >> >> size >> >> >> is >> >> >> >> somewhat small but still readable: overall better than in the >> released >> >> >> version >> >> >> >> (if there's a trade-off I'd rather favour image quality over menu >> >> >> appearance). >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Issues with this are that I have to enter X11 fullscreen (XQuartz >> >> issue), >> >> >> and >> >> >> >> most important I get a segfault 11 the second time I start dark >> table >> >> >> (after >> >> >> >> rebooting it starts again). >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> So here my questions: >> >> >> >> - Is there some advance in the development in order to solve the >> >> problems >> >> >> with >> >> >> >> HiDPI displays? >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Some time ago one of the users suggested adding NSPrincipalClass -> >> >> >> >NSApplication to Info.plist, which should have helped with retina >> >> >> >support, but we never got any solid confirmation what changed after I >> >> >> >did that. Also I think houz did some changes in git master which >> >> >> >concern UI scaling according to DPI setting, but I never tested that on >> >> >> >OS X. >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> - How do I properly build darktable from source on os x? >> >> >> > >> >> >> >See packaging/macosx/BUILD.txt. You have built gtk with X11 backend, I >> >> >> >use native quartz backend, which makes more sense to me. >> >> >> >> >> >> Ok, I missed that file: I only followed the general build instructions. >> >> >> Moreover, I'm rather new to OS X, so I don't actually know how to set >> the >> >> >> native quartz backend. I'll have to look for some documentation and do >> >> some >> >> >> trial and error. >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> - Are there actually any developers testing/developing darktable on >> the >> >> >> rMBP? >> >> >> > >> >> >> >I'm the only developer with Mac, and I don't have retina display, so >> no. >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> - By chance, does anybody know if I can get full resolution in >> XQuartz >> >> also >> >> >> in >> >> >> >> rootless mode? >> >> >> > >> >> >> >I didn't even know that it has any modes other than rootless... How do >> >> >> >you enter fullscreen mode? >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> Under the menu X11 -> Preferences, thick the Fullscreen Mode checkbox. >> >> Then >> >> >> the combination alt-cmd-A toggles between Fullscreen and normal mode. >> To >> >> take >> >> >> advantage of full retina resolution in fullscreen, I use "xrandr -- >> output >> >> >> default --mode 2880x1800 --rate 60". >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Thanks and best regards! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Mauro >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> >> >> darktable-devel mailing list >> >> >> >> darktable-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >> >> >> >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/darktable-devel >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> >> >_______________________________________________ >> >> >> >darktable-devel mailing list >> >> >> >darktable-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >> >> >> >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/darktable-devel >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> >> darktable-devel mailing list >> >> >> darktable-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >> >> >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/darktable-devel >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> >_______________________________________________ >> >> >darktable-devel mailing list >> >> >darktable-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >> >> >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/darktable-devel >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> darktable-devel mailing list >> >> darktable-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >> >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/darktable-devel >> > >> >> >------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >_______________________________________________ >> >darktable-devel mailing list >> >darktable-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >> >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/darktable-devel >> > >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> _______________________________________________ >> darktable-devel mailing list >> darktable-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/darktable-devel > >------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >_______________________________________________ >darktable-devel mailing list >darktable-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/darktable-devel > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ darktable-devel mailing list darktable-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/darktable-devel
