In message <CA+9ZNidKSFZ3gj=v_pl7tl+srqy1sfengft6zwj+k36mczq...@mail.gmail.com> 
on Thu, 5 Feb 2015 16:07:34 +0100, Pascal Obry <pas...@obry.net> said:

pascal> 2015-02-05 14:42 GMT+01:00 Richard Levitte <rich...@levitte.org>:
pascal> > You know, there are all kinds of ways you could have expressed that
pascal> > without going for a wholier-than-thou kind of position.
pascal> 
pascal> Or maybe because I'm not native English and that I did not choose the
pascal> right words. In any case I didn't meant to close the door, just explain
pascal> that "it is expected to have a small print as we currently get the
pascal> DPI from the printer and respect that".
pascal> 
pascal> Better?
pascal> 
pascal> > So please, I can perfectly understand not upscaling now or ever from a
pascal> > purely programmatic point of view.  Maybe you'd rather leave that to
pascal> > some other software for all I know, because it already does this
pascal> > perfectly well?  But as for judging the quality of a picture, PLEASE
pascal> > leave that to each photographer and his/her intent.  It's really not
pascal> > your job or priviledge to pass judgement on pictures or prints thereof
pascal> > when you haven't even seen them.
pascal> 
pascal> Whooo! You had a bad day?
pascal> 
pascal> Sorry but you can also step to do the job.

Yeah, it's just that the way you put it, it sounded like you and/or
the core developers/owners/powers that be/whatever ya wanna call it
had decided that upscaling was just not going to happen in darktable.
I've heard it more than once, and although I found such decision
annoying, I accepted it.  Someone had decided. But when it came with a
reference to something that's actually pretty damn subjective and
totally depending on the image in question, that took it a bit far for
my taste.  I guess my annoyance got pushed.

Now you seem to be saying that sure, upscale can happen as long as
someone implements it (and does it well, I presume).  That's a totally
different ballgame, and I'm quite happy to play along with that.  Time
will of course tell.

pascal> In any case if there is demands for this it will be done at
pascal> some point.

There seems to be a demand ;-)

pascal> Yet we need some big warnings as scaling up at some point will
pascal> get very bad it depends on the factor.

I don't mind a warning like that, but if that happens, it would be
nice if it was possible to turn off, custumisable by the user.  Some
of us do know what we're getting into ;-)

pascal> Something that should be done ASAP is at least give an hint that
pascal> the picture won't fill all the page. The print module does display
pascal> full page where the print is not, and this is clearly wrong.

Ah, yeah, I saw that at some point...  forgot to mention it and have
forgotten since...  so sorry.

Cheers,
Richard

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                                        http://richard.levitte.org/

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