I did another test: sharpening in darkroom or sharpening using a style in
the "export selected" panel gives identical results.
Instead, exporting a downscaled image, reopening this smaller image and
then applying sharpening gives different, better, results.

So my advice was wrong or not ideal at least. It was based on this part
<http://www.darktable.org/usermanual/ch02s03s12.html.php#d0e3405> of the
manual that I find quite confusing/ambiguous:

About export styles: "*You can use this feature to add processing steps and
parameters that you want to be applied specifically to images before
export, e.g. you may define a style that adds a stronger level of
sharpening when you produce scaled-down JPEG files for the internet or add
a certain level of exposure compensation to all of your output images.*"

But sharpening gets softened a lot during downscale so it doesn't seem a
good example, more like a workaround.

So it seems like some separate post processing is needed.


Bye

Lorenzo




2017-03-29 10:31 GMT+02:00 Sascha Oleszczuk <[email protected]>:

> Hello All,
>
> thank you for your feedback.
> The initial idea of my questions was to get insights of your workflows.
> How do you prepare images for web.
>
> I know that this can be done with darktable ( have read the manual ;-)  ).
> But as Roman mentioned the styles (during export) are not applied to the
> downscaled image they are added to the history stack.
>
> Let me summarize your feedback: (not all have replied to mailing list
> that's why I summarize it)
> - Export with Darkktable full resolution as TIFF and downscale with Digikam
> - Export and downscale with Darktable and append a style to sharpen.
>   Create styles for export like 640-sharpen, 1280-sharpen, 2048-sharpen
> etc.
> - Export full resolution with Darktable and use mogrify as part of
> Imagemagick to create imgaes for web
>   e.g. mogrify -quality "85%" -resize 900x900 -unsharp 1.5x1+0.7+0.2 *.jpg
>
>
> Let's see what others recommend.
>
> Thx
>
> 2017-03-28 0:26 GMT+02:00 <[email protected]>:
>
>> On Mon, 27 Mar 2017 23:58:19 +0200
>> Lorenzo Bolzani <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> >I just did a quick test: one export with no style applied and another
>> >export with a custom style containing sharpening set to max
>> >settings. The two exported files are clearly different.
>> >
>> >So I think the best option for downscale is to create a few styles
>> >(like 640-sharpen, 1280-sharpen, 2048-sharpen, etc.) and use the
>> >best one.
>> >
>> >About what kind of sharpening to use, I use all the ones you
>> >mentioned (local contrast, highpass, etc.) often more the one at the
>> >same time. They are different. I usually use the basic "sharpen"
>> >with these settings: 1600, 0.800, 250. The threshold value depends
>> >on how much noise is there in the picture as sharpening enhance the
>> >noise. I rarely use the equalizer for simple sharpening only. High
>> >pass with different settings and blend modes (e.g. softlight) gives
>> >very different results as does local contrast.
>>
>> I have also gone the route of try this, try that: local contrast,
>> sharpening and high pass.
>>
>> I ended up with mogrify which is part of imagemagick which is
>> available for both mac and linux
>>
>> I export the jpegs to a temp directory and use:
>>
>> > mogrify -quality "85%" -resize 900x900 -unsharp 1.5x1+0.7+0.2 *.jpg
>>
>> It's extremely fast and I find it the sharpening more pleasing
>>
>> --
>> sknahT
>>
>> vyS
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