* David Vincent-Jones <david...@gmail.com> [08-17-19 12:53]:
> if the devs can do better with the std cpu than can be achieved with opencl
> that really simplifies life on all types of systems. Incredible!
> 
> David
> 
> On 8/17/19 9:26 AM, I. Ivanov wrote:
> > Thank you!
> > 
> > B
> > 
> > On 2019-08-16 18:52, Jack Bowling wrote:
> > > Yes, thanks for the correction, Guillermo.
> > > 
> > > Jack
> > > 
> > > On 2019-08-16 6:50 p.m., Guillermo Rozas wrote:
> > > > What is blacklisted is the Intel Beignet driver, which should provide
> > > > OpenCL for the integrated graphics processor on Intel CPUs. This does
> > > > not affect any GPU that could be installed on the system, you can have
> > > > an NVidia or Radeon GPU with OpenCL enabled on an Intel CPU-based
> > > > computer.
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Guillermo
> > > > 
> > > > On Fri, Aug 16, 2019 at 10:30 PM I. Ivanov <iv3...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > Hi Jack,
> > > > > 
> > > > > Can I ask for clarification please? openCL on Intel CPU is
> > > > > black listed
> > > > > *regardless of the GPU* (Nvidia / Radeon) or this affects
> > > > > only the build
> > > > > in Intel GPU (that is integrated on the processor)?
> > > > > 
> > > > > Thank you,
> > > > > 
> > > > > B
> > > > > 
> > > > > On 2019-08-16 14:56, Jack Bowling wrote:
> > > > > > I believe the devs found that the current Intel opencl 
> > > > > > implementation
> > > > > > was simply much slower than doing the grunt work on the CPU so they
> > > > > > blacklisted the Intel chips to prevent the inevitable moaning about
> > > > > > slow opencl render times. Apparently, Intel is working on new opencl
> > > > > > code so perhaps this will change in the future.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Jack
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > On 2019-08-16 2:14 p.m., David Vincent-Jones wrote:
> > > > > > > Thanks Jack
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > does that mean that that there is nothing that one can do to
> > > > > > > implement opencl on an Intel machine? Is this something that will 
> > > > > > > be
> > > > > > > fixed, or that I can fix?
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > David
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > On 8/16/19 1:57 PM, Jack Bowling wrote:
> > > > > > > > If you are running an Intel CPU, opencl is
> > > > > > > > blacklisted in darktable.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Jack
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > On 2019-08-16 1:50 p.m., David Vincent-Jones wrote:
> > > > > > > > > I am getting this error message despite all the indications 
> > > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > openCL is all in place.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > 0.231688 [opencl_init]
> > > > > > > > > 0.231905 [opencl_init] found opencl runtime library 
> > > > > > > > > 'libOpenCL'
> > > > > > > > > 0.231929 [opencl_init] opencl library 'libOpenCL' found on 
> > > > > > > > > your
> > > > > > > > > system and loaded
> > > > > > > > > 0.232108 [opencl_init] could not get platforms: -1001
> > > > > > > > > 0.232116 [opencl_init] FINALLY: opencl is
> > > > > > > > > NOT AVAILABLE on this system.
> > > > > > > > > 0.232119 [opencl_init] initial status of
> > > > > > > > > opencl enabled flag is OFF.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > darktable 2.7.0+1613~gdd7ed32b1 ... Manjaro/Arch
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > I have tried with and without my secondary monitor in order to
> > > > > > > > > avoid memory conditions.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > David
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > 
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not if opencl works correctly.  there is an advantage over *only* cpu on
many nvidia cards.

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